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Iron said:
The problem is the message it sends across - one that justifies torture, rejects the law and the human rights inherent in it, and glorifies sadism. Seriously, if this hardcore pornography did not set off some pretty big moral alarm bells for you, then you are lost souls with a bleak future.
My complaint has been sent to 10
Well, I admit it's not particularly tasteful for public television. But claiming that anybody who enjoyed it for what it was, television, is a lost soul with a bleak future... that's uncalled for to say the least.

To each his own.
 

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I love people who watch five minutes of something, ignore a thing we like to call "context" and generalise a far more complex idea as something so basic.

That said, I do regard Iron as a permanent troll these days.

Personally I think it's a fascinating show with a great storyline and interesting characters.
 

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Love it, love it, love it, love it, but then i'm pretty messed up myself.
I'd love to mess you up myself.
Handcuffs? Your place?
 

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Tulipa said:
I love people who watch five minutes of something, ignore a thing we like to call "context" and generalise a far more complex idea as something so basic.

That said, I do regard Iron as a permanent troll these days.

Personally I think it's a fascinating show with a great storyline and interesting characters.
Toolipar! Kriest Sheesuz is close to you! Sarrender to his love and let him into your heart. Zere can be no mercy for ze relativist who says zat conscience can be defied by context; for you, your conscience is corrupted and you are disconnected from ze truth your heart knows and implores you to follow.
Reject ze vays of the world and call on ze holy spirit for renewal and life in Kriest Sheesuz, ze Llooourd

In all seriousness, this program is aevil
 

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Iron said:
*crazy rant*
Seek medical help.

It's a television show, where a serial killer kills serial killers. What's evil about that?
 

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alyssamacfetter said:
sure, u bring the cuffs?
I can bring those plastic ones :p you can pretend they're restraining you.
 

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Iron shut the fuck up, it's a great show. Don't watch it if you're going to be 'disgusted'.
 

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Iron said:
The problem is the message it sends across - one that justifies torture, rejects the law and the human rights inherent in it, and glorifies sadism. Seriously, if this hardcore pornography did not set off some pretty big moral alarm bells for you, then you are lost souls with a bleak future.
My complaint has been sent to 10
Roflmao.

I think I hear gay couples across the bridge go-go power rangers!

 

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Iron said:
The problem is the message it sends across - one that justifies torture, rejects the law and the human rights inherent in it, and glorifies sadism. Seriously, if this hardcore pornography did not set off some pretty big moral alarm bells for you, then you are lost souls with a bleak future.
My complaint has been sent to 10
:sleep:

Hardcore Pornography? It's on at 9.40pm - 10.50pm on Sunday nights, meaning it is a school night and caring parents would have their children in bed by then already. Dexter is one of the better shows Ten has regurgitated from America and I don't want you completely ruining the chance of it's survival. If you dislike it, feel free to switch to Lipstick Jungle on Seven or CSI: NY on Nine.

My compliment has been sent to Channel 10. :)
 

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hhmm yes seeing a body covered by tape, concealing all sexual areas just laying there is totally hard core.....it aint even soft porn...i'd hate to c u watch a real one.....



man there aint eve any making out...except a few awkward ones i guess...
 

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There is a deep and serious schism in our society between good and evil. You muppets dont even recognise it. You beg corporations to dominate your thought patters, to keep coming up with more and more outrageous output for your increasingly apathetic corpses to consume.
There is no decency, no shared ideal of the good, no brotherhood of man. This is why the species is doomed.

...in our personal lives and in our communities, [we] can encounter a hostility, something dangerous; a poison which threatens to corrode what is good, reshape who we are and distort the person for which we have been created. Examples abound, as you yourselves know. Among the more prevalent are alcohol and drug abuse, and the exultation of violence and sexual degradation, often presented through television and the internet as entertainment. I ask myself, could anyone standing face to face with people who actually do suffer violence and sexual exploitations "explain" that these tragedies, portrayed in virtual form are considered merely "entertainment?"

There is also something sinister which stems from the fact that freedom and tolerance are so often separated from truth. This is fuelled by the notion,. widely held today, that there are no absolute truths to guide our lives. Relativism, by indiscriminately giving value to practically everything, has made "experience" all-important. Yet, experiences, detached from any consideration of what is good or true, can lead, not to genuine freedom, but to moral or intellectual confusion, to a lowering of standards, to a loss of self-respect, and even to despair.
Pope Benedict XVI, WYD08
 

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I'm sorry Iron, but without you having watched the show, I don't think it's fair that you judge anything.
I am a BIG fan of the show, and watch it on Channel 10 of a Sunday night.
I believe each person should have their own opinion --- my Mum hates the show. It's fine if you don't like it, and if you think it is wrong.
But to condemn those who do enjoy watching is a horrible thing to do. I'm sure there would be something about you that I strongly disagree with.
But don't come into a thread of people discussing their love for Dexter, if you are going to try and shoot them down.


Each to their own.
 

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We better just turn to the Lord then.

Half the people that suffer violence and sexual exploitations help the entertainment industry to portray a sense of realism.
 

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There is a deep and serious schism in our society between good and evil. You muppets dont even recognise it.
You have no idea what you're talking about. "Good" and "Evil" are concepts we all already understand.

Evil causes suffering, pain, hardship, struggle, stress, etc
Good causes ease, happiness, peace, relaxation, etc

You beg corporations to dominate your thought patters, to keep coming up with more and more outrageous output for your increasingly apathetic corpses to consume.
You're wrong. If the market for less outrageous forms of entertainment was increased, so too would the nature of media. What sort of television do you expect people to be interested in? People leading their normal lives? That's just not going to happen Iron.

There is no decency, no shared ideal of the good, no brotherhood of man. This is why the species is doomed.
Listen brother (you probably feel more awkward hearing that, than I did writing it), there is still a shared ideal of what is good and evil. What has not yet been accepted is the neutral ground, the normal ground. Some things can't be classed as good or evil. I mean medicine, medicine is good. But if taken in large quantities, it can result in death. A pillow is good, but it has many times in the past been used to asphyxiate people.

You get what I'm saying? We know what's good and bad, but we've yet to collectively figure out what's OK. I mean is HATE good or evil? We don't even have a clear answer to that yet.
 
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sunjet said:
Half the people that suffer violence and sexual exploitations help the entertainment industry to portray a sense of realism.
? I think you've spectacularly missed the point.
Also, it's irrelevant that I only saw part of the program. What I saw was absolutely wrong and horrifically traumatising. If you believe that context justified it, then youre just fooling yourself into thinking that it was something other than a titilating display of the most outrageous and vulgar varieties.
 

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sam04u said:
You get what I'm saying? We know what's good and bad, but we've yet to collectively figure out what's OK. I mean is HATE good or evil? We don't even have a clear answer to that yet.
LOVE is good, HATE is evil.
Page One!
Facepalm!

I weep for your moral confusion Sam
 

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Iron said:
LOVE is good, HATE is evil.
Page One!
Facepalm!

I weep for your moral confusion Sam
So if somebody killed your whole family. Would hating them be the evil thing to do? Loving them would be the good thing to do right? You're acting retarded Iron.
 

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