MedVision ad

Integrate e^x with me (1 Viewer)

conics2008

Active Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
1,228
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
find S e^(1+i)x ???

USING



e^a+ib = e^a ( cosb + isinb)

which gives us e^(1+i)x = e^x+ix = e^x ( cosx+isinx) = e^xcosx+ie^xsinx

now apply IBP on that.. the prob is S ie^xsinx = 0 ???
 
Last edited:

conics2008

Active Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
1,228
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
thats wrong independantz, you cant just do that =[

i got up to e^x/2 (cosx+sinx) ??

but the book doesn't have any solutions.

i is imaginary ?
 

conics2008

Active Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
1,228
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
tommy yeh done that ?? but when u get to this e^xisinx using integration by parts it stuffs everything up =[
 

conics2008

Active Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
1,228
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
I got it =]

simple sign mistake

can some one confirm this solution please.
is it

e^x/2 (cosx+sinx) + ie^x/2(sinx-cosx) = e^x/2( cosx+sinx +i(sinx-cosx) ) + C ???
 
Last edited:

conics2008

Active Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
1,228
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
The question was find S e^(1+i)x dx

using the fact e^iy = cosy+isiny

therefore

e^x+ix = e^x * e^ix = e^x(cosx+isinx)

therefore S e^xcosx +ie^xsinx = Se^(1+i)x

Using integration by parts on the expanded version

S e^xcosx dx = e^x/2 (cosx+sinx)

and S e^xisinx dx = ie^x/2 (sinx-cosx)

just add them to and simplify =]
 

lolokay

Active Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
1,015
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2009
this is a weird question, for asking you to do the integral in a more complicated way than necessary

where is the question from?
 

azureus88

Member
Joined
Jul 9, 2007
Messages
278
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
im very sure that you can take "i" as a constant since this assumption was used to prove e^i@ = cis@.
 

independantz

Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2007
Messages
409
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
independantz is no more incorrect than u conics2008, as u both are essentially assuming i can be treated like a constant. essentially, ur answer and independantz's answers are identical, its just that u used more convoluted methods to get to it:
But isnt "i" a constant?, from what I gather it is always equivalent to
 
Last edited:

lolokay

Active Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
1,015
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2009
so how are you supposed to do this question?
 

shaon0

...
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
2,029
Location
Guess
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
thats wrong independantz, you cant just do that =[

i got up to e^x/2 (cosx+sinx) ??

but the book doesn't have any solutions.

i is imaginary ?
Dude, it's the same thing. Either method is correct.
 

conics2008

Active Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
1,228
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
guys read up, i posted the solution, its the same as the other guy whos tellin me its wrong ??

go read up where it says the + C ???
 

conics2008

Active Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
1,228
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
independantz is no more incorrect than u conics2008, as u both are essentially assuming i can be treated like a constant. essentially, ur answer and independantz's answers are identical, its just that u used more convoluted methods to get to it:



hey if you read up, i got the same thing as you, and i treated i as a constant because it came from square root of -1 ??
 

Js^-1

No tengo pantelonès
Joined
Oct 14, 2007
Messages
318
Gender
Male
HSC
2008


I got this ^
Is that the correct answer? Also, does the statement

hold for complex a?
 

Templar

P vs NP
Joined
Aug 11, 2004
Messages
1,979
Gender
Male
HSC
2004


I got this ^
Is that the correct answer? Also, does the statement

hold for complex a?
Yes, it holds for complex a.

You would have considerable problems if you tried to integrate between two values in the complex though.
 

shaon0

...
Joined
Mar 26, 2008
Messages
2,029
Location
Guess
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
Yes, it holds for complex a.

You would have considerable problems if you tried to integrate between two values in the complex though.
So i could not integrate:
S [limits: 2i to i] x dx
= 0.5(2i)^2-0.5(i)^2
= -2+0.5
= -1.5
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top