Now tell me this isn't evil. (3 Viewers)

[moll.]

Nine-Year-Old's Abortion Outrages Brazil's Catholic Church - TIME

Summary:

• 9 year-old girl in Brazil is raped and impreganted with twins by her stepfather
• Family opts to abort, which is only legal in Brazil in cases where the mother was raped or has a health risk.
• The Brazilian Archbishop responds by stating that the abortion was a crime and was against "God's laws" and then subsequently excommunicates the family.

 

[wixxy2348]

Fucking church.

 

[Kwayera]

The family and the doctors who performed the abortion are to be excommunicated.

Descpicable. I've been following the whole sad tale on Pharyngula.

 

[kwabon]

farking hell, does that archbishop have any sense whatsoever???
jeez religion is so complicated.....it makes people do very mean things.
and not to forget that retarded stepfather.....

 

[Bacilli]

Absurd

 

[SAVAK]

LOL. fucking LOL with a capital L

now watch iron defend this.

and then LOL even more

 

[Iron]

Look, ofc it's a horrific tragedy and v difficult for the carrier, but if you accept the proposition that life begins at conception, then you have to accept that the twins have committed no crime themselves and have a right to exist.

 

[P_Dilemma]

Look, ofc it's a horrific tragedy and v difficult for the carrier, but if you accept the proposition that life begins at conception, then you have to accept that the twins have committed no crime themselves and have a right to exist.

And the alternative is that the girl will die after giving birth to twins... what crimes has the girl committed?

(Not really wanting to pick a fight, just want to see where this goes...)

p__D

 

[Iron]

I dont think that the girl's life was at risk

i_Ron

 

[moll.]

I dont think that the girl's life was at risk

i_Ron

Yeah it was. "The girl's immature hips would have made labour dangerous"

 

[Iron]

Well if medical opinion said that she would certainly die, I would offer that two lives can be better than one. That sort of self-sacrifice would be a beautiful example to the world


/flees to fort

 

[bored6]

Well if medical opinion said that she would certainly die, I would offer that two lives can be better than one. That sort of self-sacrifice would be a beautiful example to the world


/flees to fort

real wanker tbh.

 

[Absolutezero]

if you accept the proposition that life begins at conception

That's a pretty big 'if' though. If the 'child' does not even have a partially functional or formed brain, then is its life more important than a currently living fully-formed human being? It's like choosing a plant over a human...

 

[08er]

It isn't evil

 

[Iron]

real wanker tbh.

Obviously I meant that it should still be her choice in these circs - just not an easy one

 

[moll.]

Obviously I meant that it should still be her choice in these circs - just not an easy one

And obviously the Church's over-reaction is completely uncalled for and idiotic. They shouldn't be getting involved, let alone excommunicating the poor kid.

 

[Iron]

If her life was truely at risk, sure I agree

 

[Russdog]

really stupid in this day and age. what gives a man the right to interfere with other peoples' lives like that?

not god.

 

[loquasagacious]

Well the step-father should definitely be excommunicated. And imprisoned/executed depending on the law.

The church however should be supporting the child, who has just gone through a horrific experience.

 

[Iron]

But the Church still has to think of the other children

wont somebody pls!