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SylviaB

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Four hours from Adelaide, six hours from Melbourne, a whole fucking day away friom Sydney, in the middle of nowhere, and it come HERE.
 

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Four hours from Adelaide, six hours from Melbourne, a whole fucking day away friom Sydney, in the middle of nowhere, and it come HERE.
I'd wanna drop that family that came here.

Durrrr... come back from U.S with sick kids and swine flu virus mania.... don't get them checked out by a doctor... durr.

It's worrying that it is in Victoria now, and a news article I read this morning scared the shits through me (article had doctors quoting possibility of "40% of population recieving virus now that it was spreading in Australia" - annual flu death rate doubling etc.).

Scary shiz.
 

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Would Unis be closed as well if the government shuts schools down?
Not yet. At the moment only the affected schools are being shut down. Universities and schools are not going to be shut down until it spreads further.
 

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HOAX!
Does anyone else remember bird flu? Sounds familiar. Yeh that lasted for a month or two, was suppossed to end the world (exaggeration). Yeh but then people where just like meh, just another flu.
Talking to a biology teacher in one of my study periods today and it came up and he said that the death rate will end up being around 0.6% just like other flus.
So talk about it in 6 months and see where we are at and if you are dead,my condolances to your family

I was just about to ask you how the fuck you got red rep in less then 10 posts, but actually re reading this, i have to LOL.


Spanish Flu.

Im pretty sure it killed around the same number as the war did.
 

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I wonder how the current policy of quarantining people and basically shutting down global capitalism over this thing would compare in an economic analysis vs. just running business as normal and letting this thing take its course? Does the cost of more deaths outweigh the cost to industry?

I'd also be interested how effective quarantine is, and how many lives it saves.

I suppose it depends on the eventual death toll, which is an unknown variable at this point. Obviously each death of a working age adult has a major economic cost, as it destroys a persons lifetime productivity and all that was invested in them up to that point in their life.

Running business as normal would never be viable of course, because any country that attempted to do so would be subject to worse disorder and hysteria and the probability of worse economic outcomes and longer recovery. But as a thought experiment, supposing you could control disorder and hysteria, and keep production and consumption running as normal, I wonder how the cost would compare.

Is the perfectly rational economy better off soldiering on through a pandemic?
 

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Sick one Pacific Dawn. Now the cunting swine flu has spread to the Gold Coast.

Fuck you all.
 

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I wonder how the current policy of quarantining people and basically shutting down global capitalism over this thing would compare in an economic analysis vs. just running business as normal and letting this thing take its course? Does the cost of more deaths outweigh the cost to industry?

I'd also be interested how effective quarantine is, and how many lives it saves.

I suppose it depends on the eventual death toll, which is an unknown variable at this point. Obviously each death of a working age adult has a major economic cost, as it destroys a persons lifetime productivity and all that was invested in them up to that point in their life.

Running business as normal would never be viable of course, because any country that attempted to do so would be subject to worse disorder and hysteria and the probability of worse economic outcomes and longer recovery. But as a thought experiment, supposing you could control disorder and hysteria, and keep production and consumption running as normal, I wonder how the cost would compare.

Is the perfectly rational economy better off soldiering on through a pandemic?
Quarantine is useless in this case, imo, because once they're symptomatic it usually means they've already been carrying the virus for several days.

And the fact that the number of cases has increased so dramatically, and that Roxon claims millions will probably get it... leads me to believe that quarantine is a crock.

Given that the death rate for this flu is less than the normal flu, and given that our hospital systems are better equipped to cope with a pandemic than Mexico, I think we should just soldier on.
 

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Given that the death rate for this flu is less than the normal flu
See that's... disturbing.

I haven't been following the news, is this a dead cert unalterable truth? If so, why does the WHO continue to worry us?
 

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The death rate is lower but the infection rate is higher katie you nonce therefore more risk. Still, if anyone should die (in general, not even from flu) it should be nicola roxon imo tbh lol
 

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See that's... disturbing.

I haven't been following the news, is this a dead cert unalterable truth? If so, why does the WHO continue to worry us?
1) It's a new virus, which means we don't have an immunity to it.
2) Vaccine has not been synthesised for it yet so we can't stop it
3) It's quite virulent meaning it can spread fast.

However as of yet it's proven not to be very fatal, atleast not as fatal as was initially thought. So that's the only limitation of this virus and that can change with a newer evolutionary strain of the virus.
 

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See that's... disturbing.

I haven't been following the news, is this a dead cert unalterable truth? If so, why does the WHO continue to worry us?
Because as people have said, the ease with which it has mutated and the rapid rate at which it has spread is somewhat worrying.

But it won't change and I'll tell you why.

Because people read my signs that say 'PLEASE WASH YOUR HANDS WITH THE ANTISEPTIC RUB PROVIDED UPON ENTERING THIS BUILDING' and people ignore it. They read it and walk past.

It and the sign that says 'if you have a cough or fever, come and get a mask'. They sit there and cough and touch shit.

We're doomed as a species because people are cunts.
 

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Because as people have said, the ease with which it has mutated and the rapid rate at which it has spread is somewhat worrying.

But it won't change and I'll tell you why.

Because people read my signs that say 'PLEASE WASH YOUR HANDS WITH THE ANTISEPTIC RUB PROVIDED UPON ENTERING THIS BUILDING' and people ignore it. They read it and walk past.

It and the sign that says 'if you have a cough or fever, come and get a mask'. They sit there and cough and touch shit.

We're doomed as a species because people are cunts.
Epic. It has even prompted me to change my Mao ZeKeating sig, which was completely awesome just to add that last bit to my sig.
 

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Heh, a few people at my school left early because they were 'sick' and worried about Swine flu.

I wonder if catching it now in its earlier, mild form will give you some immunity to it if it becomes worse. Might take a drive down to Epping imo.
 

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Yes. Almost certainly better to let it run its course.

The risk of death is mainly to people who already have chronic illnesses, so presumably these people are not out and about at work and schools. They would be largely quarantined anyway.
i dont know why everyone is worrying, we should all just sit back and let the government take control of the situation. they haven't failed us before and i have 100% confidence that they have our best interests at heart. they were elected by the people after all. the government will do whatever it takes to sort this out and protect us. even if it means protecting us from ourselves. even if it means destroying the economy in the process etc
 

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