Looking for a laptop that likes being used over 10 hours a day..? (3 Viewers)

[appletoa]

GTFO seriously. Macbook pro 13 inch costs $1400 while an ASUS N51VN A1 Which has slightly better specs is approx. $1000. Seriously look things up before making outlandish claims.

If you will read what I said, I did not deny there was a price difference, just that it wasn't as big as people might think. As an example, compare the laptops in the following links:
MacBook Pro - Apple Store (Australia)

Specifications :: Satellite U500/01D [PSU8CA-01D014] :: U500 :: Satellite :: Notebooks :: All Products :: Products :: Toshiba

VGN-SR53GF : SR Series : VAIO� Notebooks : Sony Australia

VGN-NW29GF : NW Series : VAIO� Notebooks : Sony Australia

You will notice that I have used links from the higher end of Toshiba and Sony's respective ranges. This is because the Macbook Pros are the 'premium' Apple laptops, and therefore would contain higher quality components, as would the 'premium' laptops from other manufacturers.

I shall also restate my view that Apple computers will, as a general rule, develop less problems over a given time than computers from other manufacturers. This is based on my experience with them, such as my family's original Mac (Performa 5400) from 1996 still working without problem. I am currently writing this from a Macbook, which I have had no problems with in the 2 years I have owned it. In comparison, my family has also had 4 windows based computers, namely Toshibas and Acers, all of which required at least one reinstall of the operating system before being replaced due to fatal hardware problems. In my opinion, the reliability of the Macs offsets the initial price difference.

I understand that other people would have different experiences, but for someone who does not game (the field where Windows still maintains superiority), I will continue to reccommend Macs.

 

[CecilyMare]

Why do people even think of buying Acer?

 

[SnowFox]

If you will read what I said, I did not deny there was a price difference, just that it wasn't as big as people might think. As an example, compare the laptops in the following links:
MacBook Pro - Apple Store (Australia)

Specifications :: Satellite U500/01D [PSU8CA-01D014] :: U500 :: Satellite :: Notebooks :: All Products :: Products :: Toshiba

VGN-SR53GF : SR Series : VAIO� Notebooks : Sony Australia

VGN-NW29GF : NW Series : VAIO� Notebooks : Sony Australia

You will notice that I have used links from the higher end of Toshiba and Sony's respective ranges. This is because the Macbook Pros are the 'premium' Apple laptops, and therefore would contain higher quality components, as would the 'premium' laptops from other manufacturers.

I shall also restate my view that Apple computers will, as a general rule, develop less problems over a given time than computers from other manufacturers. This is based on my experience with them, such as my family's original Mac (Performa 5400) from 1996 still working without problem. I am currently writing this from a Macbook, which I have had no problems with in the 2 years I have owned it. In comparison, my family has also had 4 windows based computers, namely Toshibas and Acers, all of which required at least one reinstall of the operating system before being replaced due to fatal hardware problems. In my opinion, the reliability of the Macs offsets the initial price difference.

I understand that other people would have different experiences, but for someone who does not game (the field where Windows still maintains superiority), I will continue to reccommend Macs.

A mac can still fuck up hardware wise, and its even more of a bitch fixing a macbook due to its case design.

 

[Dx_God]

Why do people even think of buying Acer?

to me, acer is alright in terms of its specs for spending. the only con that i know is that most of their laptops don't look satisfying and that u get a cheap feel to it. but i've never used an acer so i don't know how they good they operate.

 

[Dx_God]

the only thing i hate about macbooks is their specs to price ratio. it's basically so crap that its not funny. their best laptop is the 17 inch macbook pro which costs 2.5k and here are the specs:


Processor: 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor
Memory: 4GB memory
Hard disk: 500GB 5400-rpm hard drive
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT graphics processor with 512MB GDDR3 memory




compare this to the laptop i'm going to buy, dell studio xps 16 which costs 2k with the specs:


Processor: Intel® Core™ I7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, turbo up to 2.8GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
Memory: 6GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM memory
Hard drive: 500GB SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive
Graphics card: ATI Mobility RADEON(R) HD 4670 - 1GB

Basically the mac got owned at every single component here...even though it costs 500 more...

Then is the looks, i'd prefer the looks of the dell over the mac any day seriously...just look at it...

Finally the only problems with the dell is the heat and the battery life. this can be sorted out easily by applying a cooler, and making the battery 15-celled, and undervolting. the final result is u get a beast with sleek designs and no weakness what so ever.

 

[ClockworkSoldier]

the only thing i hate about macbooks is their specs to price ratio. it's basically so crap that its not funny. their best laptop is the 17 inch macbook pro which costs 2.5k and here are the specs:


Processor: 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor
Memory: 4GB memory
Hard disk: 500GB 5400-rpm hard drive
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT graphics processor with 512MB GDDR3 memory




compare this to the laptop i'm going to buy, dell studio xps 16 which costs 2k with the specs:


Processor: Intel® Core™ I7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, turbo up to 2.8GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
Memory: 6GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM memory
Hard drive: 500GB SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive
Graphics card: ATI Mobility RADEON(R) HD 4670 - 1GB

Basically the mac got owned at every single component here...even though it costs 500 more...

Then is the looks, i'd prefer the looks of the dell over the mac any day seriously...just look at it...

Finally the only problems with the dell is the heat and the battery life. this can be sorted out easily by applying a cooler, and making the battery 15-celled, and undervolting. the final result is u get a beast with sleek designs and no weakness what so ever.

I think the extra 500 would be for the unibody design and the OS?

I could go all Mac fanboy and state the old "You pay for OS stability" but I'm not a fanboy, nor is Mac stable. It crashes the same amount as windows, it just takes longer to get to that stage. MAINTENENCE IS THE KEY!

The unibody design is extremely durable, feels more solid than most laptops I've held.

Mac OS is retardedly expensive as far as I know.

 

[Dx_God]

I think the extra 500 would be for the unibody design and the OS?
I could go all Mac fanboy and state the old "You pay for OS stability" but I'm not a fanboy, nor is Mac stable. It crashes the same amount as windows, it just takes longer to get to that stage. MAINTENENCE IS THE KEY!
The unibody design is extremely durable, feels more solid than most laptops I've held.

meh win xp is stable enough for me. never had a blue screen before and everything's being fine for me. as for the durable design, i personally don't need it since i keep my expensive items in prestige conditions and since i'll keep it home most of the time unless i'm on a trip or something

 

[ClockworkSoldier]

Fair enough. People get blue screens when they dunno how to keep their computer healthy.

 

[Arcorn]

I get a blue screen 30 minutes after leaving my computer inactive... Because screen savers are awesome.

But seriously Macs aren't stable and even harder to fix when they do break. Plus your battery dies in a Macbook Air(not sure about the Macbook pro) you have to send it back to Apple to get it replaced. Shiny doesn't mean good, as everyone saw with Vista. Even though both Vista and Windows 7 look like KDE...

 

[SnowFox]

laptop only got one blue screen, when it told me the GPU died.

 

[aussie-boy]

Surely if your main goal is longevity, you should look for a laptop with no graphics card, as big as possible (so the components aren't squashed together), and a really good fan.

Slim computers like apple laptops/mini pcs are prone to overheating etc which may become a problem if continuously used 10hrs a day

 

[ClockworkSoldier]

I get a blue screen 30 minutes after leaving my computer inactive... Because screen savers are awesome.

But seriously Macs aren't stable and even harder to fix when they do break. Plus your battery dies in a Macbook Air(not sure about the Macbook pro) you have to send it back to Apple to get it replaced. Shiny doesn't mean good, as everyone saw with Vista. Even though both Vista and Windows 7 look like KDE...

True.

Mac is horrible to fix. Any problem that I know could be simply fixed in Windows is often just cast off as 'backup and repartition + install OS X'. Bullshit. Why does almost EVERYTHING require a repartition and install? Wtf?

Haven't had the battery problem, so can't comment.

It's a great computer, does everything I could need... Just needs the ease of functional troubleshooting! Badly!

 

[CecilyMare]

May be horrible to fix but then again the important thing is that it has a less chance of breaking than other laptops, no?

 

[musing]

May be horrible to fix but then again the important thing is that it has a less chance of breaking than other laptops, no?

Also, Macs are less prone to viruses compared to Windows.

 

[ClockworkSoldier]

Mac's aren't 'less prone to breaking' at all, they are as unstable as Windows.

I've owned both.

 

[SnowFox]

And Mac targeted viruses are on the rise.

 

[ClockworkSoldier]

And Mac targeted viruses are on the rise.

Due to increased popularity and market share XD.

 

[SnowFox]

Due to increased popularity and market share XD.

Bip.Bap.Bam.

 

[CecilyMare]

Also, why are US laptops so much cheaper than the laptops you buy in Australia? I was looking at a toshiba satellite t350 or something and it was no more than 700USD. Unfortunately it was from the US and they won't ship to australia, and then i went around looking for australian laptops and similar toshiba laptops were at least 1100$

 

[MHael]

You will notice that I have used links from the higher end of Toshiba and Sony's respective ranges. This is because the Macbook Pros are the 'premium' Apple laptops, and therefore would contain higher quality components, as would the 'premium' laptops from other manufacturers.

This is straight out garbage. Apple source their components from the same places as any other manufacturer. The components are of no better quality. The extra cost comes from three things: the case, the OS, and the name.

Dx_God, getting a quad core processor running at 1.6 GHz stock, then undervolting is just illogical. You won't see any advantage unless you're constantly running multi-threaded apps. You're better off going with a faster dual core, with lower power consumption.