Does God exist? (15 Viewers)

[SylviaB]

this thread belongs in like 2005

amusingly enough it was actually first posted in 2005 lol so go figure

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[cosmo 2]

isnt it more just the fact that the atheiests basically won

like, when has religion been a potent influence in western politics since ever, even in america

even global islam is in terminal decline

 

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Yes God exists. At least, the creator does.
There is this thing called grace that exists everywhere whether you’re receptive or not to experience it.

I lost my sense of grace the moment my faith wavered in the certainty of the universe, and went down the path of scientific explaining as the sole source of knowledge.

However, no matter what explainations you may have, you still technically KNOW nothing for certain.
Sure, you may know how things happen, but the more you dig, there will never be an answer for ‘why’.

There is so much intention however between every intricate design that exists in nature, so there ultimately is a ‘why’, a grand scheme if you will, even though we may never know it within our life times.

In order to feel grace btw, try the thought experiment, what would it feel like if God was a FACT!

Don’t go about this logically, for that’s only one aspect of intelligence, instead, sharpen your intuition, and experience what it’s like to have faith in things again.

Once you do, it’s obvious that there is more than meets the eye, and I guess we could call ‘that’ God?

 

[Atheist/agnostic slayer]

Ofc, you're all wrong and I challenge every single one of you.

 

[Atheist/agnostic slayer]

actually i graduated from school, 7 years ago lol. im still at uni lol, studying a second degree.

Daniel especially you, I want to show you how you presuppose things subsequent to having to presuppose a preceding first mover or uncaused causer, identical to the theistic worldview, without any empirical evidence like you require of God such as axioms.

 

[synthesisFR]

Ofc, you're all wrong and I challenge every single one of you.

yes so God exists but theres thousands of religions so how do you know yours is right

 

[its_ace21]

Daniel especially you, I want to show you how you presuppose things subsequent to having to presuppose a preceding first mover or uncaused causer, identical to the theistic worldview, without any empirical evidence like you require of God such as axioms.

pls stop writing like that my head hurts

 

[Squar3root]

God does not exist cos there is no god

 

[Squar3root]

some motivation behind believing is that if u do ur rewarded and get to be in heaven and if U do bad U go 2 hell.

Like that's just called being a decent person.

Also religion causes so much fukn dramas. Countries blowing each other up and having a sook cos they r arguing over gods from centuries ago

Religion is a man made construct to control stupid ppl

 

[cosmo 2]

most boring thread of all time

 

[notsmartenough]

God does not exist cos there is no god

This doesn't make sense because where's your evidence? You can't just say "there is no god"

Just curious, do you believe in evolution? It just doesn't make sense sorry, how life randomly started after the "big bang". How was the universe created from nothing?

The big bang theory states that "Our universe began with an explosion of space itself". Ok, then who created "the space" if "god doesn't exist"

Also what do you believe happens after death? Not hating I'm just curious

 

[Squar3root]

This doesn't make sense because where's your evidence? You can't just say "there is no god"

Just curious, do you believe in evolution? It just doesn't make sense sorry, how life randomly started after the "big bang". How was the universe created from nothing?

The big bang theory states that "Our universe began with an explosion of space itself". Ok, then who created "the space" if "god doesn't exist"

Also what do you believe happens after death? Not hating I'm just curious

Where is ur evidence lol

and don't say some made up book from ages ago. Wouldn't the normal be like it's doesn't exist until U prove it does? I remb seeing on tiktok and interesting argument were U just grew up with it and that's why U believe in it. Like u don't grow up in middle east and be a Christian (usually) and likewise in the states U would usually be Catholic or Christian as opposed to Muslim.

yes I believe in evolution and other things science can prove. I don't think anything happens after death. U live on earth U die and we move on. I was raised Hindu and got told there was an afterlife and stuff and if U do good in this life U get a better next one. This just sounded like copium for poor people that were struggling.

i guess we can prove everything after the big bang but not stuff proceeding it.

if we could prove with math physics or science before the big bang, would U still believe in a god?

 

[its_ace21]

if we could prove with math physics or science before the big bang, would U still believe in a god?

yes

lets take the Quran for example. The quran proved sooo many things before science did. Are you going to believe?

 

[nitto]

yes

lets take the Quran for example. The quran proved sooo many things before science did. Are you going to believe?

what did the quran prove?

 

[its_ace21]

what did the quran prove?

I have a pdf thats over 100 pages so idk if u'll be bothered reading it but I can just give small examples:


“And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all in an orbit are swimming.”
Qur’ān 21:33 (The Orbital Movement of the Sun and the Moonَ)

“...and We made from water every living thing?”
Qur’ān 21:30 (the Origin of Life in Water)

“And it is He who has released [simultaneously] the two seas, one fresh and sweet and one salty and bitter, and He placed between them a barrier and prohibiting partition.”
Qur’ān 25:53 (fresh + salt water cant mix)

"Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging [i.e., womb] Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh],and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh, then We developed him into another creation."
Qur’ān 23:13-14 (human embryonic development )

"And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy"
Qur’ān 21:32 (talking about the atmosphere)

“We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind”
Qur’ān 57:25 (iron is not natural to earth)

“And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander”
Qur’ān, 51:47 (universe is still expanding)

“Or [they are] like darknesses within an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds – darknesses, some of them upon others. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. And he to whom Allah has not granted light – for him there is no light”
Qur’ān, 24:40 (oceanographers have found that here are waves that take place internally in the oceans, below the surface of the water. Invisible to the human eye, these can only be detected through special equipment )


btw the Quran was revealed over 1400 years ago, and these things have only been covered recently, btw theres more but i havent read the whole Quran translation

 

[nitto]

I have a pdf thats over 100 pages so idk if u'll be bothered reading it but I can just give small examples:


“And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all in an orbit are swimming.”
Qur’ān 21:33 (The Orbital Movement of the Sun and the Moonَ)

“...and We made from water every living thing?”
Qur’ān 21:30 (the Origin of Life in Water)

“And it is He who has released [simultaneously] the two seas, one fresh and sweet and one salty and bitter, and He placed between them a barrier and prohibiting partition.”
Qur’ān 25:53 (fresh + salt water cant mix)

"Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging [i.e., womb] Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh],and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh, then We developed him into another creation."
Qur’ān 23:13-14 (human embryonic development )

"And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy"
Qur’ān 21:32 (talking about the atmosphere)

“We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind”
Qur’ān 57:25 (iron is not natural to earth)

“And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander”
Qur’ān, 51:47 (universe is still expanding)

“Or [they are] like darknesses within an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds – darknesses, some of them upon others. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. And he to whom Allah has not granted light – for him there is no light”
Qur’ān, 24:40 (oceanographers have found that here are waves that take place internally in the oceans, below the surface of the water. Invisible to the human eye, these can only be detected through special equipment )


btw the Quran was revealed over 1400 years ago, and these things have only been covered recently, btw theres more but i havent read the whole Quran translation

several of these have been identified first by aristotle, hippocrates and galen, such as the embryo one (nor does semen come from the backbone). for salt and freshwater, there's a transition region in between where the different salinity levels mix. also the quran describes earth shaped like an ostrich egg which is not accurate

 

[theaeneid]

“...and We made from water every living thing?”
Qur’ān 21:30 (the Origin of Life in Water)

what does this prove exactly?

 

[its_ace21]

several of these have been identified first by aristotle, hippocrates and galen, such as the embryo one (nor does semen come from the backbone). for salt and freshwater, there's a transition region in between where the different salinity levels mix. also the quran describes earth shaped like an ostrich egg which is not accurate

can u give me a quote

 

[its_ace21]

what does this prove exactly?

"The World Water Council, gives this description of the importance of water for life:
"Water is life. All living organisms are predominantly made of water: human beings about 60%, fish about 80%, plants between 80% and 90%. "

 

[SylviaB]

Ofc, you're all wrong and I challenge every single one of you.

have you tried talking to girls or something