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  1. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    Correlation does not equal causation
  2. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    No lol I never said that. The issue imo is the lack of education and the rampant political strife, poverty etc. In many countries which just happen to have larger Muslim populations.
  3. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    I already addressed the reason why such actions are common in this group of people previously in this thread. Suffice to say there are numerous political dimensions to the issue independent of religion Rather than asking me to repeat it, go back in the thread and find it for yourself
  4. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    Atheism is not a religion you nutjob
  5. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    Because they are uneducated and braibwashed by mullahs who give them a distorted view of what their religion is so that these figures may pursue their own political agenda
  6. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    you do realise that you can't blame suicide bombing on Islamic principles because, you know, suicide *is* a sin in Islam
  7. JINOUGA

    The Umat Results 2012.

    i wish you all all the best when results are released :)
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    Suspensions.

    Oh dear
  9. JINOUGA

    Suspensions.

    What did you do? (you dont have to tell if you feel uncomfortable about it)
  10. JINOUGA

    Year 12 2012 Chit Chat Thread

    Pretty much anything you want
  11. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    i understand that this isn't really on topic so I will PM you my response so as not to deviate the thread :)
  12. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    @7eleven Furthermore, the Qur'an does not ever mention stoning as a suitable punishment for anything, it is only mentioned in some Hadiths, but as I have mentioned countless times before, the Hadiths are not the word of Allah, are filled with historical inconsistencies with dates etc. and as...
  13. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    Um how? Essentially all this shows is that the concept of justice in Islam dictates punishment no more severe than the crime, something that is entirely compatible with many Western laws
  14. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    The very notion of Islamic jurispendence is imo flawed, mainly if you refer to Surah Al-Nisa 4:59 "O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger" In other words, considering...
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    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    This notion of an eye for an eye justice is further cemented by Al Nisa 16:126 “If you punish, then punish with the like of that wherewith you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, indeed it is better for the patient. Endure you patiently." So the notion of "an eye for an eye" is far...
  16. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    that brings in one of the most powerful and yet oft ignored quote from the Qur'an, Al-Isra 17:15 "Whosoever goes astray goes astray at his own loss" I.e. In a situation where a person does not adhere to Islamic principles i.e. Committing adultery, that is their concern and does not give you a...
  17. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    No. The Qur'an specifies compensation, if accepted by the victim's party, as sufficient punishment. Being a Muslim is first and foremost about obeying the Qur'an. The entire concept of Sharia, is as I said earlier, hardly concrete. Many Sharia laws that are deemed "concrete" are reliant on...
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    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    The Qur'an itself states "And We ordained therein for them: Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth and wounds equal for equal. But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation. " The bold in essence defines the notion...
  19. JINOUGA

    Violence erupts in Sydney over anti-Islam film

    no i said "such as the united states". I never implied that the US represented the entirety of the Western world, I merely implied that it was a part of it
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