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I feel kind of flattered when Jehovah's Witnesses try to save my soul, I think it's kind of endearing. They handed me a pamphlet last week, it had a picture on it that looked like it was out of childrens booklet, apparently paradise looks like black and Asian people with extremely nice teeth...

Hahahahaha. Ahhh gosh. I am just trolling for my own amusement, Kieran is the best guy I've ever known. PS I am serious about some of the comments I've made, particularly those note about political/economic ideologies, of course I know the difference between a capitalist/communist etc. I am...

I don't believe in reading unless it's electronic, it's the byproduct of liberal conservatives pushing shallow communist agendas through the media.

Good argument, however, I don't believe this applies under unification theory? If all points in the universe are relative then God could occupy all spaces and possess both 1 corner and 4 corners. Also as a quick edit I didn't *actually* argue for the concept of God as a humanistic reflection...

Good argument style Slidey. I'll make it really easy for you. On what grounds do you argue the universe isn't deterministic?

To point form my argument. 1. You are all capitalist neocon scumbags. 2. There are valid scientific arguments for an initial creator, on a universal scale, whilst I don't purport to possess the ability to provide evidence for the nature of such a creator, I have put forth a fairly clean...

Maybe if you book burning capitalist neocon bastards weren't so prejudiced and biased you could see the shining light in my arguments. I pity you. You scumbags of the earth, maybe you should learn to put forth an argument with some validty, rather than just attacking my person.

Also how about you stop the personal attacks you communist scum, why can't you target my arguments, why do you have to keep attacking my person? You're such a loser for doing that.

I addressed your criticisms of my understanding of quantum observance, I didn't say consciousness was necessary for observance, I said something was necessary for observance, and that this necessitated the existence of a God. God being the creator and initial observer of our universe. I never...

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Agreed.

Just as a side note for you other capitalist neocons, what is gained by attempting to destroy religion in liberalised Western society? You can claim that religion is used as a tool to provide justification for war, but with or without religion these wars would remain, it's the human condition...

Maybe if you capitalist neocons weren't so busy burning books in the name of science the bourgeoise wouldn't need to revolt. Sure, if you want to pretend, Schroedinger, that you're standing on some lofty moral peak, and that the objectives of many of those people partaking in this discussion...

I personally don't believe in God in a traditional, biblical sense, the main reason I weigh in here is because I also don't believe contemporary science provides any definite answers, I think it is wrong to criticise others for their beliefs, when the evidence we are basing our judgements on is...

Spiritually speaking I think I am probably closest to the Buddhist interpretation of life and death. I believe in cyclical energy transference and earnestly believe I will re experience life in an infinite number of combinations, infinite times. I believe that at the same time as God exists, I...

Exactly right, my belief is that if there is a God it's the product and sum of the universe. Probably, in a basic sense, the universe itself is God, and by its nature is the only one really in on the joke. Do you think your particles run around trying to debate your existence?

This whole pi argument is ridiculous and clutching at straws, surely you have stronger anti-biblical arguments that a small and ridiculous inconsistency in the bible? Surely one could simply argue that God chose to approximate given people wouldn't adequately appreciate the implications?

Enteebee, if it is not a conscious, what exactly is it? I understand that non 'conscious' observation (computers, other particles etc.) are enough to determine reality; what I am saying is, whatever DID create the universe is what we name God, and there is significant empirical evidence at this...

The flaw is not within the analogy, it's within the way you break it down. My point is this, within a religious context the methodology you are utilising is flawed, it's context vs. context. Superman can't fight Godzilla because they aren't from the same universe, science cannot disprove...

My point stands, no matter what the mechanism for observance is, that is God. Therefore a small amount of scientific reasoning tells us a God exists. Pointless. Opinion. No scientific value.