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A ridiculously easy question about which 2 u of eng have to count (1 Viewer)
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Yep. Your best two units. Its a double bonus in that 3 & 4 unit are way easier than advanced and scaled A LOT better.
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what?? i am confused?? so are you telling me that advanced english doesnt count??
No. I have no idea how you managed to come to that conclusion.
We are simply saying that English (Advanced) does not have to count. Your best two units of english will be included in your UAI, and those two units do not have to be from the advanced course. All four units will count if they are in your top ten.
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wow!...i know i sound realli out of it ...but this is so coolz..never knew dat.....so wot r u saying is dat if my advanced english happens to be my worest..and if i do 12 units altogether..that will not be counted..right? umm..this is intersintg....
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thankz lazarus! 
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yes.
2unit Advanced english or Standard english does indeed count towards the UAI, and you should check with the BOS if anybody tells you different.
It is mandatory in the 10 best units, which means that there is either Standard or Advanced english, + eight other of your best units.
Apparently the mandatory english is included as a level (a standard, so to speak) of commonality among all students; this is also one of the reason why all students are made to do 2 units of english continuously through years 11 and 12.
I am unaware of any circumstances that permit a student to have 2unit EXTENSION english included INSTEAD of the mandatory english, I am also lead to believe that there is no way this can be changed or altered.
Give up hope, we're never going to get out of this. Advanced english is going to screw our uai's and send us all to the university of western sydney.. as cleaners. :/
2unit Advanced english or Standard english does indeed count towards the UAI, and you should check with the BOS if anybody tells you different.
It is mandatory in the 10 best units, which means that there is either Standard or Advanced english, + eight other of your best units.
Apparently the mandatory english is included as a level (a standard, so to speak) of commonality among all students; this is also one of the reason why all students are made to do 2 units of english continuously through years 11 and 12.
I am unaware of any circumstances that permit a student to have 2unit EXTENSION english included INSTEAD of the mandatory english, I am also lead to believe that there is no way this can be changed or altered.
Give up hope, we're never going to get out of this. Advanced english is going to screw our uai's and send us all to the university of western sydney.. as cleaners. :/
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what happens if you say get marks such as:
btw, this is an example and may/may not be true in real life.
i.e. a student scoring good marks in the extensions and crashing out on advanced english, it's just an example
adv english 75
eng ext1 41
eng ext2 42
wouldn't they use your two extensions instead?
that's what i was led to believe.
btw, this is an example and may/may not be true in real life.
i.e. a student scoring good marks in the extensions and crashing out on advanced english, it's just an example
adv english 75
eng ext1 41
eng ext2 42
wouldn't they use your two extensions instead?
that's what i was led to believe.
Re: yes.
No. The requirement is simply two units of english - it does not matter which two (consider also the students who do ESL and hence take neither standard nor advanced). I might reiterate a comment I made in an earlier post, and point out that in my personal situation "only my third and fourth units counted." The advanced component was not counted towards my UAI.
If the scaled marks for the extension courses are higher than the scaled mark for the advanced course, they will be included instead. Alternatively, only one extension course and half of the advanced component can be included if that would produce a greater result.
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Haha, well, your example is almost exactly the same situation I am in:
Advanced: 77%
Extension 1: ninetysomethingpercent
Extension 2: 41 / 50.
& I think I failed my last english advanced assessment too.
Until recently I was lead to believe the same thing --that the Best two units of english would be counted.
But, this is not so. Because advanced (or standard, whatever) english is the only standard among all students, it had to be included.
So, this HORRIBLE example mark of seventy something would be the first thing counted towards your UAI.
But-- this might not be so bad, you need to consider what rank you are-- as this is (I am lead to believe) is what you are scaled upon. For example, if your mark is 74 but you are 3rd in your school, then you are going to be scaled way up. (Similarly, if you are me, and your rank is thirty something / 1oo&something, than you will not be scaled so well.)
Also realise that doing really well in your extension subjects does scale it well. So seventy something right now might not be so bad.
Ace the trials & then you / your example will not have to worry.
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Advanced: 77%
Extension 1: ninetysomethingpercent
Extension 2: 41 / 50.
& I think I failed my last english advanced assessment too.
Until recently I was lead to believe the same thing --that the Best two units of english would be counted.
But, this is not so. Because advanced (or standard, whatever) english is the only standard among all students, it had to be included.
So, this HORRIBLE example mark of seventy something would be the first thing counted towards your UAI.
But-- this might not be so bad, you need to consider what rank you are-- as this is (I am lead to believe) is what you are scaled upon. For example, if your mark is 74 but you are 3rd in your school, then you are going to be scaled way up. (Similarly, if you are me, and your rank is thirty something / 1oo&something, than you will not be scaled so well.)
Also realise that doing really well in your extension subjects does scale it well. So seventy something right now might not be so bad.
Ace the trials
& then you / your example will not have to worry. xoxo
The first part of this statement is correct - and the inclusion of extension courses instead of the common course can be justified by the way in which extension courses are scaled. Without delving into too much detail, the distribution of marks for an extension course is shaped to match the distribution of marks for those same extension students in the common course. And for the second extension course, the distribution of marks in the first extension course is used. Hence the 'common standard' bubbles up to the courses at the top level, and allows them to be included instead.
I'm reluctant to argue with yet another point, as you've made some good comments (which are rare these days, though I appreciate them
) but I feel the need to point out that this doesn't actually occur; extension courses do not influence the courses beneath them in any way.
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Lazarus, (hi!)
where did you learn that the Best two units of english are what is counted towards the UAI?
Because --- as much as I would like to believe this, several BOS notices I have seen + two information tutorials I have been to state directly that advanced / standard (or els, as you pointed out) are counted before anything else, and that the extension subjects are only counted among the eight units remaining.
Even so: it is encouraging, if there is a CHANCE that advanced will not be included (it is interesting what you say about the way marks are distributed-- do you know of anywhere I can look up to read more about it? Is it delved into online anywhere?) and the extension courses become the sole english marks.
Haha:also: I meant that the extension subjects -when scaled- do effect the entire UAI, not the course below them, but as a whole (and in comparison to the raw mark).
Show me something that will prove to me that my advanced marks will not be counted! (And I will forever / temporarily, either way, be in your debt)
where did you learn that the Best two units of english are what is counted towards the UAI?
Because --- as much as I would like to believe this, several BOS notices I have seen + two information tutorials I have been to state directly that advanced / standard (or els, as you pointed out) are counted before anything else, and that the extension subjects are only counted among the eight units remaining.
Even so: it is encouraging, if there is a CHANCE that advanced will not be included (it is interesting what you say about the way marks are distributed-- do you know of anywhere I can look up to read more about it? Is it delved into online anywhere?) and the extension courses become the sole english marks.
Haha:also: I meant that the extension subjects -when scaled- do effect the entire UAI, not the course below them, but as a whole (and in comparison to the raw mark).
Show me something that will prove to me that my advanced marks will not be counted! (And I will forever / temporarily, either way, be in your debt)
Well, here's an excerpt from my "2001 Universities Admission Index Advice" -Originally posted by gloria*
Show me something that will prove to me that my advanced marks will not be counted! (And I will forever / temporarily, either way, be in your debt)
On the reverse side -
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! Speechless.
Do you mind if I print this, and take it to my english head teacher sometime this week? So I can show her that someone (though in 2001) DIDN'T have advanced english counted?
Argh this has really thrown me. I'm desperate to believe you.
Thankyou so much.
And-- how did you come to do philosophy in yr 12? Was it with a uni? (Envious am I.)
Again, thankyou-- I will ask my head teacher about this again tomorrow.
//Freya.
Do you mind if I print this, and take it to my english head teacher sometime this week? So I can show her that someone (though in 2001) DIDN'T have advanced english counted?
Argh this has really thrown me. I'm desperate to believe you.
Thankyou so much.
And-- how did you come to do philosophy in yr 12? Was it with a uni? (Envious am I.)
Again, thankyou-- I will ask my head teacher about this again tomorrow.
//Freya.