Bachelor of Commerce (Liberal Studies) (1 Viewer)

[sam_account]

hi guys,

i'm interested in doing this course and wanted to know about the workload during the course and how hard the subjects are? also, is it much better than the bachelor of commerce (normal course) at usyd?? wat advantages/disadvantages exist between the 2??

any replies will be appreciated..thanks

 

[Ye Olde St Nick]

B Commerce:
3 yrs,
focuses heavily on business/commerce with 11 core Commerce subjects which are mandatory to take. Can take a limited number of subjects from other faculties.

http://www.econ.usyd.edu.au/course/FH027.html

B Commerce (Lib Studies)
4yrs,
In addition to commerce subjects you are required to take subjects from the Arts and Science Faculties. Only has 1 mandatory subject.
Some believe this gives a much fuller learning experience and a more balanced degree, others believe that its highly frivolous and a waste of a year on study.

http://www.econ.usyd.edu.au/course/FH019.html

On a semester to semester basis the workloads of the two degrees are identical, 24 credit points a semester (4 subjects) however, B Comm (lib) is a year longer to complete.

Personally, I do B Commerce, however, I had B Comm (Lib) preferenced above it originally.

 

[ToO LaZy ^*]

youre doing more for less if youre doing lib.
and i think you can do 3 majors for lib and only 2 (which is really all you need) for straight com.

 

[Sarah168]

i do comm (lib) and thats true toolazy but it doesnt necessarily suit everyone

if you are a straightforward type who doesnt have interest in arts or science units and just want a commerce degree then go for commerce obviously cos the lib studies component won't be of much use to you. It's convenient for people who have interest outside of commerce and want to study it (esp a language)

something i posted awhile ago in this thread http://community.boredofstudies.org/showthread.php?t=82684&

"b commerce (liberal studies) is NOT like b commerce combined with b liberal studies (b liberal studies has compulsory maths, science,language units) its just a commerce degree without pre reqs and the option to do a couple of units outside of the commerce arena

difference lies in a few main areas:

- instead of option of 1 or two commerce majors. you have to do 2

- no compulsory commerce pre rqs like acct, ecmt, or macro/micro (the catch is that to complete two commerce majors, you end up having to do about 50% + of the pre reqs. the good thing is that if u dont want anything to do with acct, you dont have to touch it.)

- one compulsory unit called "communications and critical analysis". its 6 credit points and looks a breeze so not much worry there. its just a unit in academic writing

- an extra year as minai said ( a year on top if you want honours, so 5 years for honours rather than 4)

- minimum of 24 credit pointsof arts or govt units (thats about 4 subjects)

- minimum of 12 credit points for science (2 subjects and you can cop out by doing psych or history of science if u dont want to do lab sciences)

edit: com (lib) would suit someone interested in certain areas of commerce but still wants to do some "interest units" like english, history, philosophy or whatever. check out the majors you want and see what pre reqs they require. usually u can skip about 2 of the pre reqs (im skipping acct 1b and information systems)"

 

[sam_account]

thanks guys, very helpful advice....

the usyd handbook says that if this course (liberal stuidies- bcomm) "the student MUST undertake units from science and arts faculty" ...the thing is i'm not a slight bit intereseted in these facaulties!!! like how many units or credit points do u need to make up from these facualities??

i know in unsw u need to take units from other facualties , but extremely few and that also in the last yr for bcomm..

i'm mainly interested in a career in commerce, with accounting + finace majors..

so what wud be the best course for me, i got 98.35 uai, so i can choose any of the commerce courses..

any advise/comments are appreciated...
thankss

 

[Ye Olde St Nick]

Definitely straight B. Comm then, if u have no interest in those other subjects then its pretty farkin simple, dont do them. Otherwise ur just wasting a year of ur life.

 

[Sarah168]

i agree. You seem like a straight b comm type. dont waste time with com (lib)

 

[§eraphim]

thanks guys, very helpful advice....

the usyd handbook says that if this course (liberal stuidies- bcomm) "the student MUST undertake units from science and arts faculty" ...the thing is i'm not a slight bit intereseted in these facaulties!!! like how many units or credit points do u need to make up from these facualities??

i know in unsw u need to take units from other facualties , but extremely few and that also in the last yr for bcomm..

i'm mainly interested in a career in commerce, with accounting + finace majors..

so what wud be the best course for me, i got 98.35 uai, so i can choose any of the commerce courses..

any advise/comments are appreciated...
thankss

Yes, come to UNSW to do Commerce! The general education component of every single degrees require you to take 12 credit points (2 full subjects) worth of subjects outside your faculty (There are 48cp/yr and 144 for the whole 3-yr degree). Many ppl choose to substitude special General Education subjects for proper subjects from other faculties. eg 1st yr Japanese. These subjects can be taken from 2nd yr onwards.

What you could do is enrol in the BCom/BA at UNSW, do those non-commerce subjects through your BA in 1st yr (only 12cp for the Gen Ed requirement) and then drop back to normal BCom in the beginning of 2nd yr (there are forms which can arrange to have your Arts subjects credited as General Education subjects). The same applies to BCom/BSc, etc.

 

[Ye Olde St Nick]

Or, come to USYD because UNSW is a fuckin hole.

 

[§eraphim]

You are such a wanker...

 

[jpr333]

Comm lib is gay, do straight comm and save a year of your precious life.

 

[Ye Olde St Nick]

You are such a wanker...

Only when I see your picture.

 

[stazi]

haha i love you brogan.
and seraphim, you can also do subjects outside your faculty in b com.

As said, if you just want to go into business ASAP (or a component of it), then b com is your best bet.
If you want to more develop your interests and have a more holistic education (and don't mind the extra year), b com (lib) is your best bet.

Personally, I am transferring to b com (lib) as it seems to be the only way for me to do an extended marketing major, along with a psychology major.

 

[jpr333]

Why don't you do a masters in pseudo sciences while you're at it LOL

 

[stazi]

Why don't you do a masters in pseudo sciences while you're at it LOL

... i don't get it?

 

[chiche]

If I did Comm (Liberal Studies), would I be able to get a job in the arts or science areas or do they just serve as interest units? Could this be possible with a liberal studies degree? Thanks.

 

[stazi]

If I did Comm (Liberal Studies), would I be able to get a job in the arts or science areas or do they just serve as interest units? Could this be possible with a liberal studies degree? Thanks.

not really as you must do two majors from the economics and business faculty. You could get 1 arts major in or 1 science major in if you did lots of govt units.
TO get a job in those areas either:
a) B Arts/Sciences
b) B Arts & Sciences
c) B Liberal studies

 

[blackfriday]

im currently agonising over com lib or com/sc at unsw, and i have no idea which to choose. im going to uni for a degree that gets me a job first year out hopefully and i cant be stuffed with student activism and all that lefty crap.

 

[stazi]

it depends on what you want to major in? what job do you want?

 

[stazi]

oh and also, you should know that you cant major in a science subject with com (lib) unless you do 4 govt subjects (which wont be a problem, unless you are disinterested in politics and don't have an exceptional grasp of english - you'll do heaps of readings, essays, etc)