Degree Questions (1 Viewer)

[ari89]

Sorry if these have already been asked (and yes i have already looked through the forum for the answer)...

I am a bit confused about the lengths of the medical courses at different unis.

For example,

B Medicine/B Surgery @ UWS = 5 years
B Medicine/B Surgery @ NSW = 6 years
B Medicine @ Newcastle = 5 years

And about the Newcaslte course, are they unable to become surgeons? And what are the other limitations of that degree compared to the MBBS courses?

thanks

Oh yeah..as a side note...how does B Med Sci compare at USYD, UNSW, UTS and MQ....not basing this on anything i believe that syd and nsw's courses would be more medical orientated as they have medical schools at their uni...is that true?

Thanks again

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

Lengths of medical courses:
UNSW do 1 yr of dedicated research.

This is where the 1 yr goes to....
does this then disadvantage students that dun do it?

prolly not because at UWS and Newcastle require you to complete research work in parallel with medical study and there are options to do extensive research yrs for honours at all universities and in the summers.

Newcastle's Medical Degree.
Yes this I suspect has been asked like 6 times in the last 4 yrs.

B.Med = M.B,B.S; there is no major differences, you will still do surgical rotations at Newcastle. You can still become a surgeon (dunno why u would tho.. but the option is there )

http://www.newcastle.edu.au/program/10379.html
They just confer a non-traditional named degree.

 

[velox]

Unless you have the liberty of choosing, pick wherever you get in. You end up all the same.

 

[the leader]

Just out of interest, why is it MBBS and not BMBS (apart from it being catchier)?

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

1st part is latin..
2nd part is english

MB = Medicinæ Baccalaureus (latin)
BS = Bachelor of Surgery

in Australia its was initially MB.. given out
then MB,BS (after 5 yrs at melb uni circa 1860s)

then flinders added BMBS all in english
newcaslte used BMed

in other places lik in NZ and south africa and UK.. the degree is all in latin
Medicinæ Baccalaureus, Chirurgiæ Baccalaureus = MB ChB and other modification of this..

you can name it basically anything as long as ppl understand it

 

[ari89]

1st part is latin..
2nd part is english

MB = Medicinæ Baccalaureus (latin)
BS = Bachelor of Surgery

in Australia its was initially MB.. given out
then MB,BS (after 5 yrs at melb uni circa 1860s)

then flinders added BMBS all in english
newcaslte used BMed

in other places lik in NZ and south africa and UK.. the degree is all in latin
Medicinæ Baccalaureus, Chirurgiæ Baccalaureus = MB ChB and other modification of this..

you can name it basically anything as long as ppl understand it

Thanks for clearing that up...and adding a bit of history to it

 

[the leader]

Ahhh.. it all makes sense now

thanks for that!

 

[kloudsurfer]

Lengths of medical courses:
UNSW do 1 yr of dedicated research.

This is where the 1 yr goes to....
does this then disadvantage students that dun do it?

prolly not because at UWS and Newcastle require you to complete research work in parallel with medical study and there are options to do extensive research yrs for honours at all universities and in the summers.

Newcastle's Medical Degree.
Yes this I suspect has been asked like 6 times in the last 4 yrs.

B.Med = M.B,B.S; there is no major differences, you will still do surgical rotations at Newcastle. You can still become a surgeon (dunno why u would tho.. but the option is there )

http://www.newcastle.edu.au/program/10379.html
They just confer a non-traditional named degree.

See, thats what i thought about the newcastle course. But I want to work overseas and my Dad thinks that if I go somewhere with just a B Medicine than they will think I am not fully qualified. He believes that it is recognised officially internationally, but still thinks that some places will, for example, just think i have half a degree or can't do surgery or something. Ive been trying to tell him that thats not true, but he seems pretty sceptical about it.

Am I right?

 

[ari89]

See, thats what i thought about the newcastle course. But I want to work overseas and my Dad thinks that if I go somewhere with just a B Medicine than they will think I am not fully qualified. He believes that it is recognised officially internationally, but still thinks that some places will, for example, just think i have half a degree or can't do surgery or something. Ive been trying to tell him that thats not true, but he seems pretty sceptical about it.

Am I right?

I don't think it would cause any problems because to practice over seas you would need to be admitted as a medical practitioner in that country. This would probably consist of some sort of test as well as a medical degree accredited in their country.

I think they would be similar to the process for overseas graduates wishing to practice in Australia. More info on that can be found here

So yeah...as long as the Newcastle course is accredited by their medical practice authority you should have no hassles...

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

See, thats what i thought about the newcastle course. But I want to work overseas and my Dad thinks that if I go somewhere with just a B Medicine than they will think I am not fully qualified. He believes that it is recognised officially internationally, but still thinks that some places will, for example, just think i have half a degree or can't do surgery or something. Ive been trying to tell him that thats not true, but he seems pretty sceptical about it.

Am I right?

again originally Melb uni gave out.... Bachelors of Medicine..

umm most places really do the (Commonwealth) MB.BS, (U.S) MD or eqv statement.. so yeah officially there is no bias.. but i dunno how ppl view it.

 

[velox]

Different unis are recognised in different countries. The fact that UNewcastle has a Bmed degree, instead of the conventional naming of MBBS or MBChB makes no difference.