• Best of luck to the class of 2024 for their HSC exams. You got this!
    Let us know your thoughts on the HSC exams here
  • YOU can help the next generation of students in the community!
    Share your trial papers and notes on our Notes & Resources page
MedVision ad

Geometric Series Q (1 Viewer)

sae24

New Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2022
Messages
7
Gender
Female
HSC
2024
Screenshot 2024-05-29 at 11.11.38 pm.png

Hi, For this question, for part b,
Would you substitute a=2(0.9) or a=1 ; am very confused as different answer sources substituted either one.

Please help, thank you !
 

aqwerty13402

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 26, 2024
Messages
1,270
Gender
Male
HSC
2024
you can do both. You can leave one on the outside, and form the GP with everything after that. So it'd be

1 + 2(0.9 + 0.9^2 + 0.9^3...) a =0.9 r= 0.9 n= n
Sn = 1 + 2((0.9(0.9^2-1)/0.9)

The key if u leave the 1 out the front and start the GP after the one, is to factorise out the 2. That wasy you have a clear GP inside
 

cossine

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 24, 2020
Messages
628
Gender
Male
HSC
2017
View attachment 43303

Hi, For this question, for part b,
Would you substitute a=2(0.9) or a=1 ; am very confused as different answer sources substituted either one.

Please help, thank you !
a is always the first term in the series. So therefore a = 1. r is defined to be the ratio of successive terms. So r = 2(0.9)/1 = 2(0.9)
 

cossine

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 24, 2020
Messages
628
Gender
Male
HSC
2017
you can do both. You can leave one on the outside, and form the GP with everything after that. So it'd be

1 + 2(0.9 + 0.9^2 + 0.9^3...) a =0.9 r= 0.9 n= n
Sn = 1 + 2((0.9(0.9^2-1)/0.9)

The key if u leave the 1 out the front and start the GP after the one, is to factorise out the 2. That wasy you have a clear GP inside
This is not correct. You have changed series.

Also the formula for geometric series has not been applied correctly. You should power to n. Also number of terms are now n-1 since you have remove the 1.
 

liamkk112

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2022
Messages
1,043
Gender
Female
HSC
2023
a is always the first term in the series. So therefore a = 1. r is defined to be the ratio of successive terms. So r = 2(0.9)/1 = 2(0.9)
but if r = 2(0.9), then the powers of 2 would have to increase across the series because each time u would also have to multiply by 2

i think the best method is this:
write Sn = 1 + 2 (0.9) + 2 (0.9)^2 + ... + 2(0.9)^n

now we can take a= 2(0.9) to be the first term, and the ratio to be r = 0.9; the 1 is just an additional term we need to add on. now there are n-1 terms, so by the GP sum formula,



this makes perfect sense since when n = 1, S_n = 1, and when n> 1 the result still matches Sn = 1 + 2 (0.9) + 2 (0.9)^2 + ... + 2(0.9)^n
 

liamkk112

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2022
Messages
1,043
Gender
Female
HSC
2023
but if r = 2(0.9), then the powers of 2 would have to increase across the series because each time u would also have to multiply by 2

i think the best method is this:
write Sn = 1 + 2 (0.9) + 2 (0.9)^2 + ... + 2(0.9)^n

now we can take a= 2(0.9) to be the first term, and the ratio to be r = 0.9; the 1 is just an additional term we need to add on. now there are n-1 terms, so by the GP sum formula,



this makes perfect sense since when n = 1, S_n = 1, and when n> 1 the result still matches Sn = 1 + 2 (0.9) + 2 (0.9)^2 + ... + 2(0.9)^n
something to note is what n means in S_n; if n is defined as the time to reach the ground from the height above the ground, then the number of terms is n-1, which again would make sense since S_1 = 1. but if n is defined as the time to complete one "bounce", meaning up and then back down after hitting the ground, then the number of terms would be n, because we wouldn't count the initial drop as a bounce. it's probably a good idea to indicate the reasoning for which number of terms you pick, but in the limit as n goes to infinity they obviously produce the same result
 

cossine

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 24, 2020
Messages
628
Gender
Male
HSC
2017
but if r = 2(0.9), then the powers of 2 would have to increase across the series because each time u would also have to multiply by 2

i think the best method is this:
write Sn = 1 + 2 (0.9) + 2 (0.9)^2 + ... + 2(0.9)^n

now we can take a= 2(0.9) to be the first term, and the ratio to be r = 0.9; the 1 is just an additional term we need to add on. now there are n-1 terms, so by the GP sum formula,



this makes perfect sense since when n = 1, S_n = 1, and when n> 1 the result still matches Sn = 1 + 2 (0.9) + 2 (0.9)^2 + ... + 2(0.9)^n
Ah I missed that detail
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top