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A car starts from rest to go a distance 's' in a straight line. Its acceleration 't' seconds after the start is a(1 - t/b) until it has attained maximum velocity. ('a' and 'b' are constants, and it attains this maximum velocity within a distance less than 's')

If 'T' be the whole time for the distance, and T<sub>1</sub> be the corresponding time for the same car to go the distance at maximum velocity, prove that

b = 3(T - T<sub>1</sub>) and
a = 2s/3T<sub>1</sub>(T - T<sub>1</sub>)


So what i've done so far is this:

dv/dt = a(1 - t/b)
v = a(t - t<sup>2</sup>/2b)

dx/dt = a(t - t<sup>2</sup>/2b)
x = a(t<sup>2</sup>/2 - t<sup>3</sup>/6b)

V<sub>max</sub> when acceleration = 0, t = b
V<sub>max</sub> = ab/2

Not sure but does "T<sub>1</sub> be the corresponding time for the same car to go the distance at maximum velocity" mean:
T<sub>1</sub> = s/V<sub>max</sub>
T<sub>1</sub> = 2s/ab?

dno where to go from here...
 
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man, that question is ridiculous,

i get,

2b = 3(T - T1)

EDIT:
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Damn, screwed up the working out, but i finally got the correct answer: look at my next post below
 
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_ShiFTy_ said:
A car starts from rest to go a distance 's' in a straight line. Its acceleration 't' seconds after the start is a(1 - t/b) until it has attained maximum velocity. ('a' and 'b' are constants, and it attains this maximum velocity within a distance less than 's')

If 'T' be the whole time for the distance, and T<sub>1</sub> be the corresponding time for the same car to go the distance at maximum velocity, prove that

b = 3(T - T<sub>1</sub>) and
a = 2s/3T<sub>1</sub>(T - T<sub>1</sub>)


So what i've done so far is this:

dv/dt = a(1 - t/b)
v = a(t - t<sup>2</sup>/2b)

dx/dt = a(t - t<sup>2</sup>/2b)
x = a(t<sup>2</sup>/2 - t<sup>3</sup>/6b)

V<sub>max</sub> when acceleration = 0, t = b
V<sub>max</sub> = ab/2

Not sure but does "T<sub>1</sub> be the corresponding time for the same car to go the distance at maximum velocity" mean:
T<sub>1</sub> = s/V<sub>max</sub>
T<sub>1</sub> = 2s/ab?

dno where to go from here...
This is tricky. It has taken me all morning!

Right. The key words here are "acceleration 't' seconds after the start is a(1 - t/b) until it has attained maximum velocity"

So, at time t=b, the car reaches its maximum velocity and continues on at that velocity.
Maximum velocity = ab/2 m.s.
The point it reaches this maximum velocity is s = 2ab2/2 m

So, for the last bit of the car's travel from s=2ab2/2 to s=s, or the
distance = s-2ab2/2 metres
it travels with constant velocity, v = ab/2 metres/second
for t = (T-b) seconds

THUS:

s = v . t

(s- 2ab2/2 ) = ab/2 . (T-b) ---- eqn (1)

But we know that if the car travelled at it's maximum velocity for the entire distance that
s = abT1/2

Now, doing LHS and RHS of equation (1) above.

LHS = (s- 2ab2/2 )

remove a but subbing from s = abT1/2

Then try putting in b = 3(T-T1)

Now do,

RHS = ab/2 . (T-b)

remove a, put in result for b.

LHS = RHS so b=3(T-T1) [This should be a valid argument.]

determining a is just putting b back into s = abT1/2
 

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omfg, I've figured it out, without using the alcalder's LHS = RHS arguement.

Proof:
dv/dt = a(1 - t/b)
v = a(t - t2/2b)
x = a(t2/2 - t2/6b)
Vmax when acceleration = 0, t = b
Vmax = ab/2

Now we find the displacement when the car reaches maximum velocity, which occurs when t = b

Therefore:
x = a(b2/2 - b2/6b)
=> x = 2ab2 / 6
=> x = ab2 / 3 ......... (1)

T is the total time, to travel length s... therefore, the time taken to travel the rest of the way after reaching Maximum velocity is: (T - b)

But Time = Displacement/Velocity

And the displacement left after reaching Vmax, is:
s - (ab2 /3)

and the Velocity for that length is:
ab/2

Therefore;
(T - b) = [s - (ab2 /3)] / (ab/2)
=> (T - b) = [ 2 (3s - (ab2) / 3ab ]
=> (T - b) = ( 6s - 2ab2 ) / 3ab
=> (T - b) = 6s / 3ab - 2ab2 / 3ab
=> (T - b) = 2s/ab - 2b/3

But T1 = 2s/ab [Total time travelled over s at Vmax]

Therefore
(T - b) = T1 - 2b/3
=> T - T1 = b - 2b/3
=> T - T1 = b/3

.'. b = 3(T - T1)
 

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Good one. Knew there had to be an easier way. ;) But we both got there in the end.
 

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