S Smilebuffalo Member Joined Jun 9, 2008 Messages 89 Location Fairfield West Gender Male HSC 2010 Jul 28, 2009 #1 two roots of x^3 + mx^2 + 15x - 7 = 0 are equal and rational. Find m. ? answer: m = -9
tommykins i am number -e^i*pi Joined Feb 18, 2007 Messages 5,730 Gender Male HSC 2008 Jul 28, 2009 #2 @, $ be roots. @^2.$ = 7 -> $ = 7/@^2 @ + @ + $ = -m @^2 + @$ + @$ = 15 -> @^2 + 2@$ = 15 -> @^2 + 2@.7/@^2 = 15 @^2 + 14/@ = 15 @^3 + 14 = 15@ @^3 - 15@ + 14 = 0 Solving that, you get @ as 1 (since @ is rational) hence 1.$ = 7, $ = 7 @ + @ + $ = -m 1+1+7 = -m m = -9 probably a better way but yeah.
@, $ be roots. @^2.$ = 7 -> $ = 7/@^2 @ + @ + $ = -m @^2 + @$ + @$ = 15 -> @^2 + 2@$ = 15 -> @^2 + 2@.7/@^2 = 15 @^2 + 14/@ = 15 @^3 + 14 = 15@ @^3 - 15@ + 14 = 0 Solving that, you get @ as 1 (since @ is rational) hence 1.$ = 7, $ = 7 @ + @ + $ = -m 1+1+7 = -m m = -9 probably a better way but yeah.
Trebla Administrator Administrator Joined Feb 16, 2005 Messages 8,402 Gender Male HSC 2006 Jul 28, 2009 #3 You could also use a theorem from Ext2 that a double root satisfies P(x) = P'(x) = 0
S Smilebuffalo Member Joined Jun 9, 2008 Messages 89 Location Fairfield West Gender Male HSC 2010 Jul 29, 2009 #4 ahh i see. So its necessary to solve a cubic equation in order to solve this problem? how did you solve the cubic: @^3 - 15@ + 14 = 0 ??? Last edited: Jul 29, 2009
ahh i see. So its necessary to solve a cubic equation in order to solve this problem? how did you solve the cubic: @^3 - 15@ + 14 = 0 ???
tommykins i am number -e^i*pi Joined Feb 18, 2007 Messages 5,730 Gender Male HSC 2008 Jul 29, 2009 #5 observation. first number to sub in is +-1