Rules regarding P1 License (2 Viewers)

[TheHarlequinMan]

Is it true:

- No more than one (1) engine modification?

- Are body mods (Sunroof, Mags, Lowered suspension) class as mods and how many can i have?

 

[sk8ie_boi]

I generally just update the firmware to get extra pipelines out of the engine.

how do u update the firmware? btw dis is for a commodore

 

[mr_brightside]

how do u update the firmware? btw dis is for a commodore

Take it to your nearest qualified installation/updater place.
Make sure they specialise in Commodores.

 

[sk8ie_boi]

Take it to your nearest qualified installation/updater place.
Make sure they specialise in Commodores.

oh I see, lol I guess I need to start looking for a place like that, haha I never knew cars had firmwares ... lol I guess you learn something new everynight

 

[mr_brightside]

oh I see, lol I guess I need to start looking for a place like that, haha I never knew cars had firmwares ... lol I guess you learn something new everynight

Yeah. Apparently they just hook a cable up to your cars ECU and download some later firmware and it can give up to 30% more performance.

 

[petar13]

30% sounds very far-fetched.

 

[DaddyK]

The law states, No supercharges,turbo's, v8's or banned 6's, and if it needs to be engineered than it is illegal under the new P1 law. You can do as many exterior mods as you want, although most are illegal. Pretty much under the law of a registered vehicle, any legal modification isn't worth doing, alot of shit is illegal, more so than you would think.

 

[2006istheyear]

would a cannon muffler be illegal for a P1 driver?

 

[Mr Will]

Yeah. Apparently they just hook a cable up to your cars ECU and download some later firmware and it can give up to 30% more performance.

lmao that is the funniest car related thing ive ever heard. what a load of shit. cars dont have 'firmware'. cars have ECU's, which can be reprogrammed.

 

[DaddyK]

would a cannon muffler be illegal for a P1 driver?

As long as it doesn't go over the legal decibel limit set by the EPA it is legal.

 

[DaddyK]

lmao that is the funniest car related thing ive ever heard. what a load of shit. cars dont have 'firmware'. cars have ECU's, which can be reprogrammed.

I agree, its not as simple as just downloading the latest "firmware". With todays ECU's there biggest job is calculating the fuel flow for the amount of air thats being supplied to the engine, what they usually do is modify the computer to allow a bigger intake of air and fuel to gain horsepower.

 

[mr_brightside]

bahaha nah you can like download the firmware no prob fo serious.
ITS MAKES YOUR CAR GO FAST LOL!

Note to self: Mess with sk8ie_boi more often. Gullible target.

 

[DaddyK]

well that, or your covering your stupidity up.

 

[mr_brightside]

well that, or your covering your stupidity up.

Shroe was originally joking.

I continued the joke.

See a pattern?

 

[DaddyK]

Fair enough.

 

[seremify007]

lmao that is the funniest car related thing ive ever heard. what a load of shit. cars dont have 'firmware'. cars have ECU's, which can be reprogrammed.

Some people refer to CVT software as being called 'firmware'... but that could just be something I picked up along the way when reading American sites. Is that different to the ECU? Btw have any of you guys modified ECUs before? My cousins modified their ECUs on all the cars; but couldn't find people to remove speed limiters.

Back on topic, i thought we aren't allowed to do performance modifications under new laws;

 

[seremify007]

Yeah. Apparently they just hook a cable up to your cars ECU and download some later firmware and it can give up to 30% more performance.

lmao that is the funniest car related thing ive ever heard. what a load of shit. cars dont have 'firmware'. cars have ECU's, which can be reprogrammed.

I don't get why you guys are laughing at him... I mean, from the end-user perspective; that is what it looks like. You drive to the place, they hook up their computer stuff to your car, a few weeks later, you bring your car back, and then they install the new software, and that's it.

As for the 30% more performance... I'd say it depends heavily on the car. My cousin whinged that the performance gain in his 328 wasn't worth the money he paid for the "German tuning" which was advertised as being "AC Schnitzer tuning".

 

[petar13]

Any ECU reprogramming focuses on mainly two things - ignition maps, and fuel maps. Looking at it in the most basic fashion, ignition timing is advanced, in keeping with the constant use of 98 octane, to prevent detonation. That's all you can do through the ECU. Cars that are already made to run on good fuel (~92) don't experience more than a 5% (10% max.) gain.

30% is in the realm of turbo charging. That's all I meant.

 

[DaddyK]

Its funny, how is a cop going to tell that you have a bigger cam or that you've done some head work to the car - they can't.

 

[mr_brightside]

Its funny, how is a cop going to tell that you have a bigger cam or that you've done some head work to the car - they can't.

But if your in an accident and your insurance company comes and looks at your car you might be in a bit of trouble if they pass your name along.