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I'm confused on what they use as internal marks for hsc.
It's definitely not the class tests, so is it the trial exam? Is that the internal mark?

And then external is just HSC?

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50 of you final mark is made up of
ALL YOUR ASSESSMENT TASKS
HALF YEARLY EXAM
TRIAL EXAM

Those COMBINED make up 50%

The other 50% is your final HSC exam in October!

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Are you sure because I heard that class assessment marks don't count because different schools set different difficulties..?
 

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Are you sure because I heard that class assessment marks don't count because different schools set different difficulties..?
The marks don't count, but the ranks do. Hence why in class assessments are extremely important.
 

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Your ranking determines what you will get in your hsc. If you are ranked first in your assessments, you will get half of the first hsc exam mark ( even if it's someone else) PLUS whatever you get for your exam mark.

Someone who was third in assessment ranks but first in exam will get half of the third ranked persons mark in hsc exams PLUS their top exam mark!

You will still get a moderated assessment mark for the first 50% otherwise they are saying the exam is worth 100% which it is not.


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Basically, the 50% in class is made up of your ranks and the difference between ranks. Then, that 50% of marks actually comes from the HSC exams and is then moderated. Also, 50% of your mark is directly your performance in the HSC.
 

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The marks don't count, but the ranks do. Hence why in class assessments are extremely important.
Lol Panda. The ranks don't count except 1st and last. Its about the percentage differences between the ranks that counts.
 

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Are you sure because I heard that class assessment marks don't count because different schools set different difficulties..?

You should have an assessment schedule with all the assessment tasks for all subjects and their weightings. These will be set by your school and internally marked.

When this process is finished - around late August, early September - your school will have a mark out of 100 for 2 unit subjects or 50 for 1 unit ones that they send into the BOS. This is the mark used to determine your moderated assessment mark. In order to ensure that the school's marks are comparable across the state these marks are moderated using the final HSC mark by giving the highest exam mark as the top moderated assessment mark and the lowest exam mark to the lowest ranked student as their moderated assessment mark. The rest of the cohort are allocated marks based on the relative gaps between them and those around them (not a direct correlation of third exam mark to third ranked student at all). This way the internal marks can be compared across the state. This also stops schools sending in exorbitant marks. Look at the following sets of marks:

School A sends in 5 students with the following 5 marks - 98, 95, 92, 89 and 85
School B sends in 5 students with the following 5 marks - 88, 85, 82, 79 and 75

It would appear that School A's students are better than School B's but what is School A sets easier tasks - the BOS needed to find a way to be fair so they moderate them.

Now what if the students at both schools ended up with the following set of marks:

96, 95, 93, 92 and 89

Final result would be the same for both schools as it seems that School B's set harder tasks - the total marks, average, range and median for both schools in the HSC was the same and so were the range and relative gaps so in both schools the top ranked student would have a moderated mark of 96 and the bottom would end up with an moderated mark of 89 with the gaps in between also staying the same between the schools.

Class tests that aren't mentioned in the assessment schedule don't count however.

This internal moderated mark contributes 50% to the final mark and the other 50% comes directly from the HSC exam itself.
 

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Your ranking determines what you will get in your hsc.
Except for first and last, ranking does not determine your assessment mark.

If you are ranked first in your assessments, you will get half of the first hsc exam mark ( even if it's someone else) PLUS whatever you get for your exam mark.

Someone who was third in assessment ranks but first in exam will get half of the third ranked persons mark in hsc exams PLUS their top exam mark!
No, that only applies for first and last. 3rd rank does not receive the 3rd highest exam mark. Assessment marks are moderated based on how close you are to first place in terms of marks, not ranks. Being within 2% is better than being within 20%, yet you could have the same rank in both scenarios. The process of moderation is explained here: http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/hsc-results/moderation.html and in the hundreds of threads here that ask the same or similar thing.
 
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All your assessment tasks have weightings so if a task is weighted 10%, half of that would be 5%, meaning that it would contribute to 5% of your internal marks and at the end of term 3, you school will calculate this and send it off to the BOS.
 

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