Homosexuality in Australia (8 Viewers)

[Tangent]

Yea, I'm going with Kids Help Line, and LGBT Support groups, etc..

Thanks!

Dont thank him, he was being an idiot.

www.queerattitude.com/

Try that and see if it helps.

 

[Got2Kno91]

Let's try to get some discussion, shall we?

I wonder how a homosexual orientation originates?

Some theories I've read/heard include:
*Pre-natal hormonal imbalance, in particular pertaining to Androgens [e.g. Testosterone) (most plausible in my opinion)
*Genetic origination
*That gay people were born with the brain of the opposite sex
*Lack of strong mother/father figure in life (I doubt this could have such a strong influence as to change something as innate as sexual orientation)
*Sexual abuse (bullshit IMO)
*A result of evolution which in fact paradoxically helps the propogation of the species (interesting because this implies that homosexuality is in fact not the result of a erroneous complication in development, but in fact is "supposed" to happen)
*A combination of the above factors

And so the inevitable question is, if a baby was detected as likely to be homosexual in the womb, and a "treatment" (e.g. hormonal) could be applied to "correct" the "problem," would this be immoral, a form of genocide even? Or would it be just like correcting any other "error"?

 

[SnowFox]

I dont have a father figure and im not gay.

Try again.

 

[Got2Kno91]

I dont have a father figure and im not gay.

Try again.

It could be one of the factors though. A combination of factors may act together to shape sexual orientation. Furthermore, different people could have different causes of their sexual orientation.

I must say that I too lacked a strong father figure for much of my earlier years. Although I doubt this was a critical factor, if one at all.

 

[Ethanescence]

Let's try to get some discussion, shall we?

I wonder how a homosexual orientation originates?

Some theories I've read/heard include:
*Pre-natal hormonal imbalance, in particular pertaining to Androgens [e.g. Testosterone) (most plausible in my opinion)
*Genetic origination
*That gay people were born with the brain of the opposite sex
*Lack of strong mother/father figure in life (I doubt this could have such a strong influence as to change something as innate as sexual orientation)
*Sexual abuse (bullshit IMO)
*A result of evolution which in fact paradoxically helps the propogation of the species (interesting because this implies that homosexuality is in fact not the result of a erroneous complication in development, but in fact is "supposed" to happen)
*A combination of the above factors

The ones in bold are the most plausible, and are not mutually exclusive.

*That gay people were born with the brain of the opposite sex

That would be more relevant to gender identity disorder (transgender issues), rather than homosexuality.

 

[Senator111]

I just discovered this thread - bit last after 279 page! So I'll have my 2 cents and then I'll be off leaving you to continue your debate.

I have no problems with gays what so ever, I feel the wording of the question was are you pro-gay or anti-gay.

I have no problems with them as I said, as long as they do not want to get married or adopt!

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

I have no problems with them as I said, as long as they do not want to get married or adopt!

Whoo we've hit a snag! Isn't that the only thing that's left?

 

[0bs3n3]

people love arguing, i'm pretty cure most of the people on this thread don't even care, they just like a good argument

+ 1.

lol very true.

 

[Got2Kno91]

Is anyone willing to voice their opinion on this? What if it were your child? We could seriously be facing a situation in the near future where medicine has such capabilities.

[From a previous post of mine]

"And so the inevitable question is, if a baby was detected as likely to be homosexual in the womb, and a "treatment" (e.g. hormonal) could be applied to "correct" the "problem," would this be immoral, a form of genocide even? Or would it be just like correcting any other "error"?"

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

But then again, some homosexuals don't like marrying/adopting..

But then AGAIN, straight people too.

That's true. But equality must still be made because many would like the option.

 

[kaz1]

A child with gay parents will be bullied shitless at school.

Just saying what would most likely happen.

 

[0bs3n3]

Is anyone willing to voice their opinion on this? What if it were your child? We could seriously be facing a situation in the near future where medicine has such capabilities.

[From a previous post of mine]

"And so the inevitable question is, if a baby was detected as likely to be homosexual in the womb, and a "treatment" (e.g. hormonal) could be applied to "correct" the "problem," would this be immoral, a form of genocide even? Or would it be just like correcting any other "error"?"

Probably would tbh.

 

[Got2Kno91]

A child with gay parents will be bullied shitless at school.

Just saying what would most likely happen.

This is because of the bigoted attitudes of juvenile fools though. If you were asian in say 1950's Australia and attended the public school system, you would have had the shit bullied out of you. Times have changed. I guess its only by perserverence that attitudes toward children of gay parents can change and become more accepting. Anyway, we keep talking in theoretical language about this, but there are already quite a number of gay couples (male and female) with children out there.

 

[Boxes]

A child with gay parents will be bullied shitless at school.

Just saying what would most likely happen.

how would people at school even know about other students' parents?

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

A child with gay parents will be bullied shitless at school.

Just saying what would most likely happen.

So would the children for fat, ugly, poor etc. parents. And plus, they're only bullied because they're "taught" that homosexuality is wrong. Just like racist parents have racist children (though not the case for some).

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

how would people at school even know about other students' parents?

Maybe at parent teacher nights when they see some kid's father holding hands with another guy.

 

[Boxes]

Maybe at parent teacher nights when they see some kid's father holding hands with another guy.

couldn't that problem be solved if only one gay attended the evening?

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

couldn't that problem be solved if only one gay attended the evening?

What if other students asks questions about the parents of the student with gay parents? Like what does your mum do? Or how old's your dad? Or when tehy ask, "can your dad pick us up from the movies?" and the student goes, "which one?"

 

[Senator111]

That is all - I believe a union is between a man and a wom - didn't say I was against them having the same rights as as defacto couple - I'm all for that!

I also believe in a childs right to be raised by a mother and father - don't play the "their family may not be right" card. That is true, but there are thousands of couples wanting to adopt!

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

That is all - I believe a union is between a man and a wom - didn't say I was against them having the same rights as as defacto couple - I'm all for that!

So you support homosexual defacto couples having the same right as married heterosexual couple?

I also believe in a childs right to be raised by a mother and father - don't play the "their family may not be right" card. That is true, but there are thousands of couples wanting to adopt!

Why? What about those in single parent families?