Liberal or Labor? (4 Viewers)

[Kwayera]

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Are you serious?

Yep. I see them as typical Labor feel-good "we're doing something about Education and The Environment" kind of policies as opposed to direct stimulus measures.


Please temper all of my comments with the extreme cynicism I have for Rudd Labor

 

[scuba_steve2121]

Tbh I didn't see the BER and batts programs as stimulus measures?

ugh

it doesn't matter all governments invest in stupid things that are terrible, using their flawed government logic or the fact that they want to vote grab from the weak minded people.

i know somebody who voted labour because liberal didn't do enough to save the whales. that was their sole reason

also they're people who are stupid enough enough to vote Abbot on the sole basis that he is likely to outlaw abortion due to his christian beliefs

 

[Rothbard]

Yep. I see them as typical Labor feel-good "we're doing something about Education and The Environment" kind of policies as opposed to direct stimulus measures.


Please temper all of my comments with the extreme cynicism I have for Rudd Labor

They were announced within the remit of the stimulus response...

Admittedly they used the 'stimulus' situation to move issues they were fans of, but the Libs would have done the same thing.

They were still direct stimulus measures. Government spending on projects under the scope of stimulus.

Again, the Libs wouldn't tax the mining industry, but they would continue to spend a shitload of money on middle class welfare to buy votes.

 

[Kwayera]

also they're people who are stupid enough enough to vote Abbot on the sole basis that he is likely to outlaw abortion due to his christian beliefs

Except he's publicly stated that he sees the hypocrisy of imposing those beliefs on the public - he believes abortion should be "safe, legal and rare" /quote

I'm no huge fan of Abbott, you understand, but I have to respect that

 

[Lolsmith]

I seriously doubt that you pay tax.

Unless you're some form of master child entrepreneur. I doubt you pay tax or anything above a couple hundred dollars that you could easily claim back. Also don't pull some bullshit "but I pay GST lwol" argument, either.

I think scuba_steve here has the right idea. Liberal, if in power, would have used a stimulus package to attempt to avert any short-term recession basically due to pressure from external + internal forces.

On a two party preferred system, I'd vote Labour. Mainly because they're going to put in a Broadband Network that'll hopefully fix up the shitty net we have at the moment. They'll also keep their relatively socialist policy of paying for education, so I can do good with that over the next 4 years before election swings around again. Will reassess political priorities afterwards.

 

[Existential]

Except he's publicly stated that he sees the hypocrisy of imposing those beliefs on the public - he believes abortion should be "safe, legal and rare" /quote

I'm no huge fan of Abbott, you understand, but I have to respect that

abbott stresses "RARE" here. i dont know what to think really. but of course i respect the comment TO AN EXTENT.

 

[Kwayera]

abbott stresses "RARE" here. i dont know what to think really. but of course i respect the comment TO AN EXTENT.

Generally means he supports sex education and condoms

really

 

[Kwayera]

On a two party preferred system, I'd vote Labour. Mainly because they're going to put in a Broadband Network that'll hopefully fix up the shitty net we have at the moment. They'll also keep their relatively socialist policy of paying for education, so I can do good with that over the next 4 years before election swings around again. Will reassess political priorities afterwards.

Um.. are you serious? If you knew what that policy actually entailed, you would not possibly support it.

Also you can't even spell Labor.

 

[badquinton304]

Except he's publicly stated that he sees the hypocrisy of imposing those beliefs on the public - he believes abortion should be "safe, legal and rare" /quote

I'm no huge fan of Abbott, you understand, but I have to respect that

I would definitely think that would count under the whole not gospel truth thing.

 

[Kwayera]

I would definitely think that would count under the whole not gospel truth thing.

P sure it was in his book

 

[Rothbard]

Generally means he supports sex education and condoms

really

Um where is the evidence to support that at all...

I'd take it to mean he would want people to take the child to term. Catholics support abortion in some circumstances.

Fuck you're a brainless hack robot now.

 

[Rothbard]

Um.. are you serious? If you knew what that policy actually entailed, you would not possibly support it.

Also you can't even spell Labor.

Slidey's Labour/Labor rant here.

Please explain why the national broadband plan is a problem. I know why but why are you against it?

 

[Kwayera]

Um where is the evidence to support that at all...

I'd take it to mean he would want people to take the child to term. Catholics support abortion in some circumstances.

Fuck you're a brainless hack robot now.

You can think that if you like, but actually it means I've just come to grudgingly respect him on some issues


Still hate the anti-gay thing and the non-belief-in-climate-change thing and blah blah

 

[Rothbard]

You can think that if you like, but actually it means I've just come to grudgingly respect him on some issues


Still hate the anti-gay thing and the non-belief-in-climate-change thing and blah blah

Hahahahahahahhahahahaha

He's informed entirely by his faith and you respect him for it.

Yeah whatever hack.

You can't post your real feelings on the issue here anyway incase blah blah

Everyone Kwayera is an employee of the Liberal Party, just for the record.

 

[Kwayera]

Slidey's Labour/Labor rant here.

Please explain why the national broadband plan is a problem. I know why but why are you against it?

Because they're holding a gun to Telstra's head, demanding that it split and forcing them to give up their network if they want a piece of the bandwidth pie, as I understand it. Forcing a company (and by extension their shareholders) to give up their assets is.. wrong.

Correct me if I am incorrect

 

[Rothbard]

Because they're holding a gun to Telstra's head, demanding that it split and forcing them to give up their network if they want a piece of the bandwidth pie, as I understand it. Forcing a company (and by extension their shareholders) to give up their assets is.. wrong.

Correct me if I am incorrect

All of their assets came from the state...

Thus...

 

[Existential]

I would definitely think that would count under the whole not gospel truth thing.

LOL... tony tony tony....

 

[chuha]

Liberal.

 

[Kwayera]

Hahahahahahahhahahahaha

He's informed entirely by his faith and you respect him for it.

Yeah whatever hack.

You can't post your real feelings on the issue here anyway incase blah blah

Everyone Kwayera is an employee of the Liberal Party, just for the record.

I respect the fact that he's willing to set aside his faith on certain issues, what is the problem with that :/

Yes I am, but that has really no bearing because my detailed opinions on certain issues have already been posted here. *shrug*

Please apply your attack-dog argument style elsewhere

 

[seremify007]

All of their assets came from the state...

Thus...

It's not fair to shareholders who invested in the business though with T1/T2/T3/etc...

Surely someone sees the common sense here that Telstra's copper wire network monopoly and whatnot is what drove the competition to invest in alternative options and technologies. That is a good thing.

As for the education and laptops- that really annoyed me especially when you know that a good chunk of those laptops are being used to play games and muck around with no tangible improvement to the education standards. That money going to waste and welfare payments are the biggest annoyances to any loving taxpayer.