• YOU can help the next generation of students in the community!
    Share your trial papers and notes on our Notes & Resources page

Graphs Help (1 Viewer)

4025808

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2009
Messages
4,377
Location
中國農村稻農
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
Uni Grad
2017
May anyone help me with these questions? I'm not sure what they mean and like I'm not sure how to work them out

ii) of the first question (not sure how to get the set values of the real number k such as that f(x) = kx has three real roots)

in the 2nd image, I dont understand ii) of a)
and I don't get how to do b) since i havent done inverse trig functions yet
[find the domain and range of the function tan^-1(e^x), sketch the curve....]

help is greatly appreciated =D

MX2 graphs hwk 3.png (this is the 2nd image, damn its a bit screwed...)
 

Attachments

Last edited:
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
4,741
Location
sarajevo
Gender
Female
HSC
2015
Uni Grad
2017
It just means which straight lines passing through the origin will intersect the curvy line three times.
 

xV1P3R

Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2007
Messages
199
Gender
Male
HSC
2010
I think ohexploitable means 0< k <1.

For the 2nd image, part ii)
For part i), you get a max and min turning point. To get 3 real roots, the y value of the max has to be above or on the x axis, and the y value of the min has to be below or on the x-axis. Then you look at the other keyword "different" which means you can't have double or triple roots ie. the y values of the max and min =/= 0.

To do b), it's best if you know the inverse trig functions.
 
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
4,741
Location
sarajevo
Gender
Female
HSC
2015
Uni Grad
2017
I'm not sure on the proper method because I haven't done this yet.

-----

You could sketch x3+6x2+9,



Max: (-4,41)
Min: (0,9)

Adding a constant 'k' would move it up or down, you want to move it so it intersects the x-axis 3 times with no double roots. So, -41 < k < -9.
 

hscishard

Active Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
2,033
Location
study room...maybe
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
domain x any real no.
range 0 < y< pi/2

Range of tan(-1)x is -pi/2< angke < pi/2

But because e^x is always positive, tan^-1e^x can never be negative. Hence the range is between pi/2 and 0.
As e^x approaches infinity, it approaches pi/2
As e^x approaches to 0 (when x approaches -infinity), it approaches 0

The derivative of tan(-1) u is 1/1+u^2 x du/dx
there are no stationary points
When x=0, y= pi/4
You will now have enough info if you've done this inverse stuff.
 
Last edited:

hscishard

Active Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
2,033
Location
study room...maybe
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
sin2y/2 = sinycosy

y=tan-1e^x

sin(tan^-1_e^x) x cos(tan^-1_e^x)

Using a rt < triangle, you'll find the hypotentuse is (1+e^2x)^0.5 you should be able to do it from there
 

hscishard

Active Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
2,033
Location
study room...maybe
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
I'm not sure on the proper method because I haven't done this yet.

-----

You could sketch x3+6x2+9,



Max: (-4,41)
Min: (0,9)

Adding a constant 'k' would move it up or down, you want to move it so it intersects the x-axis 3 times with no double roots. So, -41 < k < -9.
It's 9x.
Lol gotta hate it when that happens

Wait this is four unit?? Feels more prelim 2u and hsc 3u
 
Last edited:

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top