Discussion- Quality of teaching at different schools (3 Viewers)

[jnney]

School rank: 100?

English = ranges widely. 3 good teachers.
science = fail. Maybe 2 good teachers.
Social science = fail.
Languages = excellent.
Art = excellent
Music = ..no.
Sport = excellent
History = excellent
Maths = excellent, With the excuse of the minority.

Student complaints about teachers are serious business though. I think my mx1 teacher is on the verge of being fired.

 

[funnytomato]

would you say that the overall quality of teaching in all types of schools is dropping?

coz I remember when I was in my year 10 geography class, the teacher ( probably in his 50s) was telling us that "nowadays people can become teachers as long as they can breath"

(whereas when he was studying to be teacher, his friends who achieved at similar level academically all became doctors and lawyers)

 

[funnytomato]

School rank: 100?
Student complaints about teachers are serious business though. I think my mx1 teacher is on the verge of being fired.

is it a puclic school ?

 

[SpiralFlex]

would you say that the overall quality of teaching in all types of schools is dropping?

coz I remember when I was in my year 10 geography class, the teacher ( probably in his 50s) was telling us that "nowadays people can become teachers as long as they can breath"

(whereas when he was studying to be teacher, his friends who achieved at similar level academically all became doctors and lawyers)

Yes. In the old days we use to have great teachers. But they all left, presumably for money reasons. Tutoring colleges have now emerged and have increased immensely as more and more students enrol whereas in the old days there was little need.

 

[Drongoski]

nicely suspected

on an irrelevant topic, how did you get your "Estimated Equivalent ATAR"

99.95 is still > 65.

 

[jnney]

I cant say for other schools, but with the examples of poor teaching abilities at my school, i seriously question their qualifications. There are teachers who dont know / unsure of what they are teaching, and teachers who are not
capable of answering questions related to the course. Fortunately for me ive been lucky to score all better teachers, yet my friends are in pain and just hating on their subjects. Quite sad.

 

[jnney]

is it a puclic school ?

Strathfield girls.

 

[SpiralFlex]

I don't think many teacher's do realise their faults. We should have someone at the back of the room given a score to them each lesson.

 

[jnney]

I don't think many teacher's do realise their faults. We should have someone at the back of the room given a score to them each lesson.

half the staff at my school would be fired.

But yeah definitely.

 

[slyhunter]

Strathfield girls.

Wait for a Social Science teacher from your school to lurk this thread.

laters

 

[SpiralFlex]

half the staff at my school would be fired.

But yeah definitely.

On a positive note, overall it's not too bad. Could be worse. I scanned around 150 pages of Maths work during the summer holidays to the head teacher of Mathematics at our school (future 4U teacher). He marked it in under 3 hours and printed all of it out and handed it to me.

 

[jnney]

I doubt it. Social science never catches people who plagarise. It's amazing.

 

[SpiralFlex]

I doubt it. Social science never catches people who plagarise. It's amazing.

Our Year 10 English teacher admitted the staff checks for any student's online accounts.

 

[Drongoski]

would you say that the overall quality of teaching in all types of schools is dropping?

coz I remember when I was in my year 10 geography class, the teacher ( probably in his 50s) was telling us that "nowadays people can become teachers as long as they can breath"

It is quite easy to understand. If we go back 50 years there were not many of the job opennings we now have. Many of the better students were happy to be school teachers. Of course you still needed to be very good (top 2% ??) to study Medicine & Dentistry. To do Engineering you had to be strong in maths (certainly not Gen Maths) and physics and perhaps chemistry.

Nowadays the top-ATAR students, with a small exception, are competing for places in Medicine, Dentistry, Law; the next top choices being Commerce, ... . In the last 20 years the intake quality of teachers have dropped - although the intake quality has improved last 5 years. So instead of ATAR of say 72, many of the better unis (e.g. Syd & NSW) have teahing students with ATAR > 85?

50 years ago you didn't have CEO's drawing obscene salaries like $5 million a year plus bonuses. The landscape has changed.

So as has been pointed out, if you want to be better taught, you may need to go to coaching centres or private tutors like me.

 

[funnytomato]

On a positive note, overall it's not too bad. Could be worse. I scanned around 150 pages of Maths work during the summer holidays to the head teacher of Mathematics at our school (future 4U teacher). He marked it in under 3 hours and printed all of it out and handed it to me.

well, that's a lot of work for both of you

but he's definitely a dedicated teacher

 

[SpiralFlex]

well, that's a lot of work for both of you

but he's definitely a dedicated teacher

He also rambled on about how he fell in love with maths during our maths challenge day.

 

[jnney]

He also rambled on about how he fell in love with maths during our maths challenge day.

Sounds like my teacher.

 

[muzeikchun852]

English: Okay.
Maths: Excellent.
Science: Excellent.
Social Science: Okay.
History: Excellent.
D+T: Okay.
Art: N/A
Music: Good.
PE: Err.

 

[funnytomato]

Nowadays the top-ATAR students, with a small exception, are competing for places in Medicine, Dentistry, Law; the next top choices being Commerce, ... .
50 years ago you didn't have CEO's drawing obscene salaries like $5 million a year plus bonuses. The landscape has changed.

interesting how you've omitted science

 

[funnytomato]

In the last 20 years the intake quality of teachers have dropped - although this has changed somewhat. So instead of ATAR of say 72, many of the better unis (e.g. Syd & NSW) have teahing students with ATAR > 85?

yeah most b teaching/b subjectToTeach degrees have cut-offs in 70s