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Trebla

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Re: 2012 HSC MX1 Marathon

Given that - 1 < x < 1 and n is an arbitrary real number, find



This one is deceptively simple.
 
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Find the shortest distance between the two branches of the curve y=(x^2+1) / (x+1)
 

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wait wtf, did I just say that arctan (pi/4) = 1?

Oh dear this is what 2 hours of sleep gets you.

I meant arctan (1) = pi/4

Oh dear me.
Clearly someone needs sugar or sleep.
 

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This only works if n is an integer. In this case, n is allowed to be any real number. Most people would fall for this trap...:p
 
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This only works if n is an integer. In this case, n is allowed to be any real number. Most people would fall for this trap...:p
Isnt it now just L'Hopital's again?
 

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Isnt it now just L'Hopital's again?
Yeah if you use L'Hopital's Principle, the question is fairly straightforward.

But I don't think it's in the Extension 1 syllabus.

Unless it was given beforehand as one of those 'DO NOT PROVE' things.
 

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It can be done without L'Hopital's rule using results within the scope of even the 2 unit syllabus. The tricky bit is thinking about how to approach it.
 
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Disclaimer: This is from a 4U paper but 3U students can do it.

i) Step 1: n = 1, LHS = cosx
RHS =
=
=
= LHS

True for n = 1.

Step 2: Assume for n = k, is true.
RTP for n = k + 1, i.e.,

Proof: LHS =











Step 3: As it is true for n = 1 (step 1), it must also be true for n = 1 + 1 = 2 (step 2) and so on. Hence, the result is generally true for all positive integers n



ii) Replacing x with 2x and letting n = 8,











 

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It can be done without L'Hopital's rule using results within the scope of even the 2 unit syllabus. The tricky bit is thinking about how to approach it.


Of course here we are assuming that the derivative of x^r is rx^{r-1} even for irrational r, something not proven in the high school syllabus. (Indeed irrational powers are not even defined in high school.)
 
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Yes. Ta.

I fixed it now. It works now.
 

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lol tywebb, I think those questions are sorta pushing it for the average 4U student, let alone 3U....
 

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In those days there was no year 12. 1967 was the first year 12.

So it was the equivalent of our year 11 students who did those questions.

lol indeed.
 

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In those days there was no year 12. 1967 was the first year 12.

So it was the equivalent of our year 11 students who did those questions.

lol indeed.
But you seemed to have forgotten that the 'HSC' from 1980 onwards is much easier than the leaver's exam from beforehand :p
 

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I don't think the HSC is easier than the Leaving Certificate (1916-1966). In fact the extra year makes the HSC harder.

The questions I posted are hard but can still be done by Extension 1 students.

Nevertheless I agree that the current Extension 2 course is easier than the Level 1 course (1966-1980).
 

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