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Terror suspect shot dead after two police officers stabbed in Endeavour Hills


The terrorism suspect shot dead by a Victoria Police officer outside Endeavour Hills police station has been named as 18-year-old Numan Haider.

Mr Haider stabbed a Victoria Police officer and an Australian Federal Police member, who were investigating him over allegations he had recently unfurled an Islamic State flag in a suburban shopping centre and made several inflammatory remarks about the Australian Federal Police and ASIO on social media.

On Mr Haider's Facebook page, he had posted photographs of himself wearing military camouflage with an Islamic flag alongside abusive message towards ASIO and the federal police.

"Lets not put the focus on other things. The main message I'm sending with these statuses and photos is to the dogs AFP and ASIO who are declaring war on Islam and Muslims," Mr Haider posted on Facebook.

Mr Haider made other comments about Australian law enforcement agencies that cannot be published.

Photographs on Mr Haider's Facebook site also include other images of what appear to be members of Islamic State, also known as ISIS, in the Middle East.

Several friends of Mr Haider have confirmed to Fairfax Media that he had been killed after stabbing two police officers.

"He was the best kid, [who] never harmed anyone, never missed a prayer," one friend said.







http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/terr...abbed-in-endeavour-hills-20140924-10l5d4.html
 

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Unfortunate. This is what the social websites do.
 

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The sad thing is half of them are literally not adults. The kid who I have mutual friends with has gone to fight with ISIS and he is barely 15 yrs old.
 

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no, it's not what religion does. it's what extremism, naivety, and a lack of education does. These young kids need to realise they don't know as much as they think, and they're not as strong as they think. This is an example of what a lack of education, understanding and profound extremism can do to naive, stupid overconfident teenagers.
What this kid did was absolutely disgusting and disgraceful.
 

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Muslim leaders call for full investigation into Melbourne teen terror suspect shooting

MUSLIM leaders called for a full investigation into the fatal shooting of a teenage Muslim man after he stabbed two counter-terrorism officers in Melbourne last night.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...suspect-shooting/story-fnii5smp-1227068625250


Not "extremists", muslim LEADERS. Pathetic.

Never heard of a muslim leader asking for a "full investigation" when a non-muslim is attacked by a muslim.
 

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Why are there so many islamic extremists though?
naivety, and a lack of education
Also, the fact that roughly 1 in 4 humans are Muslim along with no education means there is a higher probability of a Muslim extremist. Yet, in terms of Muslim population itself, barely a fraction are terrorists.
 

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Also, the fact that roughly 1 in 4 humans are Muslim along with no education means there is a higher probability of a Muslim extremist. Yet, in terms of Muslim population itself, barely a fraction are terrorists.
Then the next question is, if it is barely a fraction, how do they rise to such power and how come no one stops the problem before this happens? I guess the Government in their respective countries are to blame.
 

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Then the next question is, if it is barely a fraction, how do they rise to such power and how come no one stops the problem before this happens? I guess the Saudis are to blame.
Fixed that for you. ISIS is just wahhbism turned to 11. Saudis have essentially been bankrolling wahhbist literature overseas. It's kinda like if Mitt Romney decided to bankroll the morman church overseas operations, you'd see a lot more mormans in the near future. Same as why catholicism is able to spread to the "new world" much faster than protestantism, church funding goes a long way.

Sylvia is actually right for once, most terror suspects that are capable of committing attacks are not "poor and uneducated." Shit Bin Laden was rich AS FUCK to the point of being able to fund his private army. Lots of them are educated overseas and suspiciously all take a lot of engineering subjects, especially chemical engineering and what not.
 

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With all these pre-planned raids it seems like as if AFP are trying to crack down on an "underbelly" type case.

inb4 "Underbelly: A tale of two terrorists" comes out.

Clearly the problem is engineers.
I agree; lets lock up every single engineer and go back to the stone age. Heck, while we visit the stone age, lets just stone them all.
 
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The flag he is holding up is not an ISIS flag.

On topic, i think the teenager deserved to be shot. As a muslim myself, i seriously hate all these teenagers and stupid people who tarnish the name of Islam, by enforcing violence on innocent people. These people have been fooled and brainwashed by individuals who misinterpret the Quran.

Honestly these people are not representations of the religion of Islam. They are extremists with a futile cause that will hopefully be annihilated by the Western countries which have signed to engage in airstrike attacks.
 

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Fixed that for you. ISIS is just wahhbism turned to 11. Saudis have essentially been bankrolling wahhbist literature overseas. It's kinda like if Mitt Romney decided to bankroll the morman church overseas operations, you'd see a lot more mormans in the near future. Same as why catholicism is able to spread to the "new world" much faster than protestantism, church funding goes a long way.

Sylvia is actually right for once, most terror suspects that are capable of committing attacks are not "poor and uneducated." Shit Bin Laden was rich AS FUCK to the point of being able to fund his private army. Lots of them are educated overseas and suspiciously all take a lot of engineering subjects, especially chemical engineering and what not.
I agree with you that Saudi Arabia is to blame for a vast majority of these 'terrorism' problems. But guess who's best friends with Saudi Arabia? That's right - The USA. Both earn billions from each other and regard each as other as major allies. The US never comments on Saudi Arabia and its role in all this. The US are quick to condemn Iran (the most righteous state in the middle east), but never to Saudi Arabia who abuse human rights on a level that shatters all in the world.

And the thing with Bin Laden is that he was not 'properly educated'. A lot of these 'terrorist' teenagers in the Muslim world are brainwashed by these Saudi funded Wahabbi terrorists into believing shit.

SylviaB (the dumb bitch - yeah I just called you that :p ) tries to imply that MOST of these terrorists are well educated, especially in technical subjects. That's utter bullsit. The majority of 'terrorists' are not educated at all. Sure there are some that are educated, but they are easily the minority.

And guess what, I take civil engineering...... I know a lot about buildings and structures ;) LOL
 
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I'm sorry but the issue cannot just be put down to people being "uneducated" and pigeonhole it away.

- Imagine you have Ideology A. Ideology A has some teachings that are quite simply violent or barbaric, even in their correct context (before I get jumped on, please see this: http://www.truthbeknown.com/islamquotes.htm).
- Now, only a very small minority, not even 1% of the believers, actually act upon these beliefs.
- Does that make the belief itself any less dangerous? Absolutely not.

Look it's all well and good to be idealistic but the world is not Disney. Dangerous beliefs breed dangerous people, even if it is only a minority. And let's say they didn't. Should we still be accepting of it? I just want people to wake up and realize we can't just be airy fairy and politically correct towards anything and everything, and see that every 'peace' teaching in these religious texts has an equal and opposite violent teaching. Which one should people act upon?

Terrorism
ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ls-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
NOP Research: 24% of British Muslims deny that the four British Muslim suicide bombers carried out the 7/7 attacks; 24% of British Muslims believe the British government carried out the 7/7 attacks http://www.channel4.com/news/articl...y+government+hasnt+told+truth+about+77/545847
People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq. http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children: http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/ http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html
World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans 32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans 41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans 38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans 83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose) 62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose) 42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose) A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans: (Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%) About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah 30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah 45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative) 43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative) http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative). 49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative) 49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative) 39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative) http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. 34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops. http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall). 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall). 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall). 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall). http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never). 28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never). http://www.people-press.org/2011/08...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities. 27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate. http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005 http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html
Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack. http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police. http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian Muslims Poll Nov 04/Guardian Muslims Nov04.asp http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified. 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target". http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden
Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds). Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright. http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Pew Research (2011): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (14% can’t make up their minds). http://www.people-press.org/2011/08...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda. http://people-press.org/2011/08/30/...rowth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden http://terrorism.about.com/b/2006/09/11/al-jazeeras-readers-on-911-499-support-bin-laden.htm
Pew Research: 59% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2003 41% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2007 56% of Jordanians support Osama bin Laden in 2003 http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/15/iran-terrorism-al-qaida-islam-opinions-columnists-ilan-berman.html
Pew Global: 51% of Palestinians support Osama bin Laden 54% of Muslim Nigerians Support Osama bin Laden http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/10/blinded-by-hate/ http://pewglobal.org/files/pdf/268.pdf
MacDonald Laurier Institute: 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much...new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/
World Public Opinion: Muslim majorities agree with the al-Qaeda goal of Islamic law. Muslim majorities agree with al-Qaeda goal of keeping Western values out of Islamic countries; (Egypt: 88%; Indonesia 76%; Pakistan 60%; Morocco 64%) http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
ICM Poll: 13% of Muslim in Britain support al-Qaeda attacks on America. http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/guardian-muslims-march-2004.asp http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Opinion-Polls.htm
 
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Oh, and of course there needs to be an investigation into the Police shooting the teenager. Just like there was one in the US recently, with the black teenagers that got shot by Police.

How do we know the Police and authorities are not making bullshit up? We should never believe anyone, with a blind eye.
 

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Oh, and of course there needs to be an investigation into the Police shooting the teenager. Just like there was one in the US recently, with the black teenagers that got shot by Police.

How do we know the Police and authorities are not making bullshit up? We should never believe anyone, with a blind eye.
The police got stabbed? I don't know what else you could investigate.

There's sufficient evidence to suggest the teenager was shot after he tried to kill the officers.
 

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