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I'm actually a fan of the book despite there being errors in it. Any idea on what the recent edition is like(I think she released the 2015 paperback version)? Think she must have cut down on the errors.
 

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I'm actually a fan of the book despite there being errors in it. Any idea on what the recent edition is like(I think she released the 2015 paperback version)? Think she must have cut down on the errors.
A fan of Maths In Focus??!!! enigma_1 help this poor soul.
 

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wat

Are you like actually a fan?

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The questions are like band 2 material and compared to cambridge or fitzpatrick, nowhere near as much effort has been put into the book.
 

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A fan of Maths In Focus??!!! enigma_1 help this poor soul.
Yeah I think he's been hypnotised by the font used in the textbook and the lame colour schemes.
 

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Yeah I think he's been hypnotised by the font used in the textbook and the lame colour schemes.
Wth, the font is disgusting, especially the low definition diagrams.
 

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Wth, the font is disgusting, especially the low definition diagrams.
Exactly. And those random pages where "perimeter" and "area" was defined...like is this fkn kindergarten??
 

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I'm not sure if this is 3u but it's part of a question in a 3u textbook so?
5t = 20ln(t+1)

how do i get an expression for t on its own so that i can just type it into a calculator to find an approximate value for t?
soz if this is stupid
 

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so simplify first to get t=4ln(t+1)

use log laws to move the 4 then equate and solve using polynomials
 

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so simplify first to get t=4ln(t+1)

use log laws to move the 4 then equate and solve using polynomials
i have no idea what you mean by this part
 

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I'm not sure if this is 3u but it's part of a question in a 3u textbook so?
5t = 20ln(t+1)

how do i get an expression for t on its own so that i can just type it into a calculator to find an approximate value for t?
soz if this is stupid
Did the question actually ask to find an expression for t? If your trying to approximate, probably best to draw a graph or something.
 

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Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

I'm not sure if this is 3u but it's part of a question in a 3u textbook so?
5t = 20ln(t+1)

how do i get an expression for t on its own so that i can just type it into a calculator to find an approximate value for t?
soz if this is stupid
there is an obvious solution which is t=0, by doing some calculus there is another one at around 10.35, but there is no formula for the solution thus you can not simply send it into calculator, but you can use Newton's method or other estimation approaches (even guess and check)
 

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Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

I'm not sure if this is 3u but it's part of a question in a 3u textbook so?
5t = 20ln(t+1)

how do i get an expression for t on its own so that i can just type it into a calculator to find an approximate value for t?
soz if this is stupid
By inspection, t = 0 is a solution.

There is another root, but I don't know if we can find it by hand.
 

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thanks to everyone for trying anyway haha
for now i've just plugged it into wolfram alpha and used the answer for the further parts of the question
 

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thanks to everyone for trying anyway haha
for now i've just plugged it into wolfram alpha and used the answer for the further parts of the question
I believe it's impossible to solve for x for anything in the form lnx=x+c using algebraic methods.
 

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I'm not sure if this is 3u but it's part of a question in a 3u textbook so?
5t = 20ln(t+1)

how do i get an expression for t on its own so that i can just type it into a calculator to find an approximate value for t?
soz if this is stupid
Well at least what I learnt in 2u about questions that asked you to solve x=e^x or x=lnx, you would always try guessing random values. Since this is from a 3u textbook, as Frank said, Newtons method of estimation may be required, however it still requires some form of random guessing for your starting value of course.
 

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