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YeTheBois

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Can anyone share how they studied for exams and their routine? I would really appreciate it because I have developed a bad habit of studying just a few days before any exam and it always bit me in the end.Just recently I did my RoSa and it was disastrous so I'm desperately seeking for tips to do the best in year 11 and 12. Thanks
 

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So if your internal and external mark is perhaps 90, but your cohort averages a 70, approximately how much will your ATAR drop?
 

Munti

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Can anyone share how they studied for exams and their routine? I would really appreciate it because I have developed a bad habit of studying just a few days before any exam and it always bit me in the end.Just recently I did my RoSa and it was disastrous so I'm desperately seeking for tips to do the best in year 11 and 12. Thanks
Agreed! I'm in the exact same situation.
 

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Can anyone share how they studied for exams and their routine? I would really appreciate it because I have developed a bad habit of studying just a few days before any exam and it always bit me in the end.Just recently I did my RoSa and it was disastrous so I'm desperately seeking for tips to do the best in year 11 and 12. Thanks
Basically I crammed for trials and stuff due to lots of HW but for HSC I thought of what subjects needed most past papers (maths) and then decided to aim for 3 papers a day and allocated 3 subjects per day from that and tried my best to follow that schedule.
 

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Hi, my name is Edwin, I would like a rough estimate for my ATAR please

School rank: 167 (2009) and 164 (2010)


Subjects:

1. Standard English: mid 70s (35/154)

2. Business Studies: low 80s (14/76)

3. General Maths: mid 80s (14/125)

4. Senior Science: mid 80s (4/36)

5. Community & Family Studies: mid 70s (16/44)

6. Studies of Religion 1: mid 70s (41/91)

Thank you!
 

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What happens if there is like a 5-6 mark difference in the internal ranks of 1st and 2nd, and 3rd was close to second, but everyone below that did had a big difference. But in the HSC 1st, 2nd and 3rd all were very close and there was a big difference in the others. Would 2nd and 3rd still be dragged down since in internal ranks there was a big difference.
 

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gossipgirll said:
does scaling even matter and how do they even calculate the ATAR and also does it matter what school you go to ? like the average
ive never understood
Yes, scaling is important in the sense that it is used as part of calculating an ATAR. Essentially, an overall HSC mark in a subject consists of two marks, the average of which produces the overall HSC mark. They are the Assessment Mark and the Examination Mark. The Assessment Mark is the mark that reflects your internal performance in a subject, while the Examination Mark is your HSC exam mark in the subject. The Assessment Mark is subject to the moderation process. Prior to scaling, the average of a moderated Assessment Mark and a raw Examination Mark (raw mark meaning the mark that was awarded without any adjustments) is determined, resulting in a raw HSC mark. This mark is different than the overall HSC mark that you receive as part of your HSC results, the latter being subject to alignment, which has no effect on your ATAR. Subsequently, scaling is applied to the raw HSC mark, resulting in a scaled HSC mark. This is applied across your subjects and goes into determination of your ATAR.

This covers the technical significance of scaling. However, when considered in relation to subject selection, scaling becomes less important, as you are encouraged to maintain the subject combination that would allow you to ensure favourable performance as well as the greatest alignment with your study interests. The better your performance across your subjects, the less significant the effect of scaling.

In terms of the school that you attend, your school rank itself does not matter, although it is indicative of an element that does matter, which is cohort strength. The moderation process mentioned earlier uses your internal rank relative to your cohort in a particular subject as well as your cohort's HSC exam performance in that subject to determine your Assessment Mark for the subject. Generally speaking, the higher your rank, the higher your Assessment Mark is likely to be. Where cohort strength matters is in determining the approximate that you would need in a particular subject that would be consistent with a favourable Assessment Mark. A lower-ranked school is likely to have less academically capable students. As such, a favourable Assessment Mark will likely require you to place among the top students in the cohort. On the other hand, a higher-ranked school is likely to have more academically capable students. Consequently, the same standard of performance in terms of the Assessment Mark can likely be achieved with a lower rank.

I hope this helps! 😄
 

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gossipgirll said:
does scaling even matter and how do they even calculate the ATAR and also does it matter what school you go to ? like the average
ive never understood
this one for maths 2024 hsc:

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it comes from this one

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...tudents-get-better-marks-20241223-p5l0er.html published today

use 12ft.io to circumvent paywall if necessary

also they got their data from this one: https://www.uac.edu.au/assets/docum...liminary-report-on-the-scaling-of-the-hsc.pdf
 

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