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I agree that the HSC has made some people overly competitive but handing out the exam questions isn't the way to unify people. If it's designed to put us against each other then why are you furthering that by supporting the actions people who try to gain an unfair advantage? I think @AsuTeksu's reaction is an example of why that is the wrong way to go, they don't want their hard work undermined by someone looking for an easy way out.
nah ur fair and made me reflect on my opinions since i dont take cssa papers which I've realised is probably a lot more different mentality & technicalities; i was moreso thinking of it in a sorta classmate way since in my year group/friend group if someone asks like we usually try and help as much as possible or you can come across as rude but this is online and other people probably see it differently. this is probably why i think i came across odd because i rlly wasn't taking the thread seriously. i just think the reactions to the dudes were unwarranted especially during such a sensitive period and rather then shaming for asking such questions (since honestly i dont think anybody had any negative intentions to undermine others albeit selfish) we should probs respond in more helpful/kind ways that don't involve outright giving exam questions nor wishing bad karma on them. anyways looking back i can see why my messages are frustrating since i come across dismissive and unserious lmao sorry :jump: lets all work hard and root for each other to do well regardless of circumstance or opinion :angel:
 

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private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools. this is speculation but sometimes schools encourage students to apply for provisions, even if the student doesnt require them
 

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private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools. this is speculation but sometimes schools encourage students to apply for provisions, even if the student doesnt require them
"private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools" Whys that out of curiosity
 

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"private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools" Whys that out of curiosity
the parents of private schoolers are usually rich and have money for diagnosises and assesments. sometimes the private schools will also push the students to apply for disability provisions to get an advantage i suppose, like i really doubt 1 in 3 reddam house students really need rest breaks, but 1 in 3 get disability provisions. also public schools tend to have less resources for submitting and dealing with disability provisions, for example i go to one of the better funded public schools, but the school still turned in my disability provision application late

 

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private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools. this is speculation but sometimes schools encourage students to apply for provisions, even if the student doesnt require them
"private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools" Whys that out of curiosity

I think its because often the kids at private schools who are "lower support needs" for lack of a better phrase, might not have the resources to get a diagnosis at public schools due to financials, overcrowding in classrooms and not enough teachers so only the students who are significantly impacted in all aspects or "high support needs" get noticed and diagnosed thus less provisions

also the schools might not have the resources to accommodate for as many provisions at public schools due to the large amount of students
 

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theres also a severe underfunding problem with public schools so they themselves cant get the resources needed
 

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the parents of private schoolers are usually rich and have money for diagnosises and assesments. sometimes the private schools will also push the students to apply for disability provisions to get an advantage i suppose, like i really doubt 1 in 3 reddam house students really need rest breaks, but 1 in 3 get disability provisions. also public schools tend to have less resources for submitting and dealing with disability provisions, for example i go to one of the better funded public schools, but the school still turned in my disability provision application late

I'm surprised my school isn't higher on that list tbh (its 30 in the 30s or 40s I think), so many people at my school have provisions. fortunately we have the space and resources to accommodate for it (private school)
 

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the parents of private schoolers are usually rich and have money for diagnoses and assessments. sometimes the private schools will also push the students to apply for disability provisions to get an advantage i suppose, like i really doubt 1 in 3 Reddam house students really need rest breaks, but 1 in 3 get disability provisions. also public schools tend to have less resources for submitting and dealing with disability provisions, for example i go to one of the better funded public schools, but the school still turned in my disability provision application late
In recent years (POST COVID), NESA has actually been more strict on granting provisions of 'greater significance', that being: extra time to write, individual room, keyboard access, etc. This is partially due to excessive (& less genuine) applications by 'wealthier' parents and schools. This clamping down has actually been an issue for students with more genuine needs who do not have the money and/or time to bombard NESA with a plethora of psychiatric reports.

The shortage of available psychiatrists (in all of Australia) certainly doesn't help.*

However, the 1 in 3 students having provisions was mostly a phenomenon during 2020-2021, before NESA clamped down on them (as stated above). And even that was for all types of provisions (not just rest breaks), which can include anything from writers and readers, to diabetic provisions, and the 1 in 3 number was mostly a one-off from Moriah specifically. Those figures have partially reduced as of 2022, and you can view the individual application stats (categorised by respective schooling sectors) on the NSW Gov website*, where you can see that in 2022, private schools saw a percentage of fully declined applications much higher than that of government schools.

Even still, rest breaks aren't that significant of a grant considering NESA's historical (and ongoing) leniency in offering them under any of the following conditions:
(Anxiety disorder, Fatigue, Pain, Concentration difficulties (e.g. ADHD))

ADHD and Anxiety especially are on the rise in school-year children*, and having any of these - even with minimal psychiatric documentation - are essentially a guaranteed basis for obtaining rest breaks in the HSC.

I do agree that NESA's whole system is pretty flawed to begin with - especially with favouring private schools -, but UAC mostly makes up for this with their adjustment factors under EAS*, which accounts for long-term disadvantages to one's schooling (e.g. disability, low socio-economic status, financial hardship, personal events, etc.).

* links (remove space after "www."), idk why it doesn't let me hyperlink them:

www. abs.gov.au/statistics/health/health-services/patient-experiences/latest-release

www. nsw.gov.au/education-and-training/nesa/hsc/facts-and-figures/previous-years-disability-provisions

www. aihw.gov.au/reports/children-youth/australias-children/contents/health/children-mental-illness

www. uac.edu.au/future-applicants/scholarships-and-schemes/educational-access-schemes
 

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