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hi guys i wanna hopefully get into a doctor of med degree, but i need back ups incase yk :). What other jobs are there that are similar to it that require a higher atar (mid to high 90s) and pay 100k+ that aren't absolutely soul draining?
appreciate any advice!
 

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dentistry maybe

I applied for med in yr 12 I was aiming for 99+ atar and dentistry was my backup of a " similar calibre ", followed by other health degrees like psych in case the atar/things didn't entirely work out

tbh many things can pay 100k+ yes depends on the job to an extent but also on the person like if you're skilled and climbing the ladder and stuff you can make a lot of money in many fields

as for soul draining ngl everything is soul draining but if you're passionate abt smth then it's less soul draining and you get some fulfilment
 

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dentistry maybe

I applied for med in yr 12 I was aiming for 99+ atar and dentistry was my backup of a " similar calibre ", followed by other health degrees like psych in case the atar/things didn't entirely work out

tbh many things can pay 100k+ yes depends on the job to an extent but also on the person like if you're skilled and climbing the ladder and stuff you can make a lot of money in many fields

as for soul draining ngl everything is soul draining but if you're passionate abt smth then it's less soul draining and you get some fulfilment
alr thanks im seriously considering taking psych now bc it seems decent!
 

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alr thanks im seriously considering taking psych now bc it seems decent!
yeah
also consider allied health degrees like occupation health,physio, radio, speech therapy

if med is ultimately your dream then you can always try postgrad entry or retry for undergrad
 

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hi guys i wanna hopefully get into a doctor of med degree, but i need back ups incase yk :). What other jobs are there that are similar to it that require a higher atar (mid to high 90s) and pay 100k+ that aren't absolutely soul draining?
appreciate any advice!
I reckon being a doctor is one of the most soul draining occupations that pay above 100k+ 😭😭
Unless you mean being a GP but the amount of study you still have to do is crazy
 

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dentistry maybe

I applied for med in yr 12 I was aiming for 99+ atar and dentistry was my backup of a " similar calibre ", followed by other health degrees like psych in case the atar/things didn't entirely work out

tbh many things can pay 100k+ yes depends on the job to an extent but also on the person like if you're skilled and climbing the ladder and stuff you can make a lot of money in many fields

as for soul draining ngl everything is soul draining but if you're passionate abt smth then it's less soul draining and you get some fulfilment
I made just over $100k as a third year registered nurse - granted that does include shift penalties

Why do you want to get into med or a med related degree? Prestige? General interest? Money?
All things to consider

The health sector steals your soul - and keep in mind mandatory unpaid placement in lots of health related/allied health degrees.

If you wanted to be /like/ a doctor without being an actual doctor you could always go down a nurse practitioner pathway, but that’s a lot of time and work and study.
 

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hi guys i wanna hopefully get into a doctor of med degree, but i need back ups incase yk :). What other jobs are there that are similar to it that require a higher atar (mid to high 90s) and pay 100k+ that aren't absolutely soul draining?
appreciate any advice!
Plumbers or electricians get paid over $100k per year, I think even chippies are starting to pull that kind of coin.

When choosing a career, DO NOT base it on your ATAR or academics, I cannot stress this enough. You need to analyse what your strengths are, what you enjoy and what style of work you like. Most importantly, you need to consider the kind of lifestyle you would like to lead. That will dictate the kind of career you will enjoy. Do you like a fast pace environment? Are you more of a strategic thinker? Do you want work/life balance? Are you good at building relationships with people? Questions like these will help you pick the right career path. Attitudes like "I like English and writing and I have a 97 ATAR so Ill be a lawyer" are a recipe for career regret.

Another key piece of advice is do not go to uni unless you have a clear plan and intend on pursuing a career where a degree is required. For example, if you want to be a Doctor, you need a Medical Degree, if you want to be an Engineer, you need an engineering degree etc. If you just want to work in business etc, do not go to university. If you arent sure what you want to do but want to do a degree just to "figure things out" do not go to university. You are far better off going to TAFE or looking for an entry level job. Degrees are now extremely expensive ($50k+) and a HECS debt can have a significant impact on your financial future as they can hurt your chances of getting a mortgage. I see too many people poorly advised by well-meaning parents who assume Education/Uni = $$$$. This might have been the case up until the mid-2000s, however it simply isn't the case any more.

The goal of your 20s should be to get your career and financial wellbeing on track to set you up for your long term future. Making poor decisions like doing a $50k 4 year degree to get into a profession where a $4k, 6 month TAFE course would do the same doesnt bode well for your future.
 

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Plumbers or electricians get paid over $100k per year, I think even chippies are starting to pull that kind of coin.

When choosing a career, DO NOT base it on your ATAR or academics, I cannot stress this enough. You need to analyse what your strengths are, what you enjoy and what style of work you like. Most importantly, you need to consider the kind of lifestyle you would like to lead. That will dictate the kind of career you will enjoy. Do you like a fast pace environment? Are you more of a strategic thinker? Do you want work/life balance? Are you good at building relationships with people? Questions like these will help you pick the right career path. Attitudes like "I like English and writing and I have a 97 ATAR so Ill be a lawyer" are a recipe for career regret.

Another key piece of advice is do not go to uni unless you have a clear plan and intend on pursuing a career where a degree is required. For example, if you want to be a Doctor, you need a Medical Degree, if you want to be an Engineer, you need an engineering degree etc. If you just want to work in business etc, do not go to university. If you arent sure what you want to do but want to do a degree just to "figure things out" do not go to university. You are far better off going to TAFE or looking for an entry level job. Degrees are now extremely expensive ($50k+) and a HECS debt can have a significant impact on your financial future as they can hurt your chances of getting a mortgage. I see too many people poorly advised by well-meaning parents who assume Education/Uni = $$$$. This might have been the case up until the mid-2000s, however it simply isn't the case any more.

The goal of your 20s should be to get your career and financial wellbeing on track to set you up for your long term future. Making poor decisions like doing a $50k 4 year degree to get into a profession where a $4k, 6 month TAFE course would do the same doesnt bode well for your future.
"do what you enjoy" mfs once they are making 50k a year and struggling to make ends meet because they like being a care worker
 

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I thought schools/universities do career expos to help give some insight into what the different paths/roles are? Also doesn't hurt to speak to your careers advisor for ideas too.

Coming back to enoilgram's point though, I agree, don't do something solely based on your ATAR/academics. Be realistic about what your strengths are and what you enjoy doing, such that if you were to work in that field, you have a personal interest which will help enable you to do better and stick it out even when it's tough. Not every interest/hobby will lend itself to a career, and some things are potentially better left as a hobby rather than a career choice, but at least try to find some kind of connection before embarking upon a career.

The other point I'd make is that a $100k income is relatively attainable in most career paths nowadays... but it also doesn't afford you the lifestyle which $100k once did.
 

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hi guys i wanna hopefully get into a doctor of med degree, but i need back ups incase yk :). What other jobs are there that are similar to it that require a higher atar (mid to high 90s) and pay 100k+ that aren't absolutely soul draining?
appreciate any advice!
investment banker
 

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"do what you enjoy" mfs once they are making 50k a year and struggling to make ends meet because they like being a care worker
That’s why you take into account average salary before leaping into something - don’t wanna get pigeonholed into poverty - but you also don’t wanna get pigeonholed into a job you despise either just for the money
I thought schools/universities do career expos to help give some insight into what the different paths/roles are? Also doesn't hurt to speak to your careers advisor for ideas too.

Coming back to enoilgram's point though, I agree, don't do something solely based on your ATAR/academics. Be realistic about what your strengths are and what you enjoy doing, such that if you were to work in that field, you have a personal interest which will help enable you to do better and stick it out even when it's tough. Not every interest/hobby will lend itself to a career, and some things are potentially better left as a hobby rather than a career choice, but at least try to find some kind of connection before embarking upon a career.

The other point I'd make is that a $100k income is relatively attainable in most career paths nowadays... but it also doesn't afford you the lifestyle which $100k once did.
Honestly, like being interested/genuine interest in medical stuff has helped so much with nursing. If I didn’t enjoy the theory, clinical stuff, and chatting to people I’d honestly hate my job.
 

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alr thanks im seriously considering taking psych now bc it seems decent!
Bear in mind that if you wanted to practise as a clinical psychologist, it does require some post-graduate training that ends up being similar or longer to the length of an undergraduate medical degree. For an entirely different experience where you can still splinter off into medicine, you can look up clinical perfusion (requires a BSc "or equivalent" to start with).
 

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hi guys i wanna hopefully get into a doctor of med degree, but i need back ups incase yk :). What other jobs are there that are similar to it that require a higher atar (mid to high 90s) and pay 100k+ that aren't absolutely soul draining?
appreciate any advice!
geotechnical engineering, allied health areas, geology in general (also super interesting)
 

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Bear in mind that if you wanted to practise as a clinical psychologist, it does require some post-graduate training that ends up being similar or longer to the length of an undergraduate medical degree. For an entirely different experience where you can still splinter off into medicine, you can look up clinical perfusion (requires a BSc "or equivalent" to start with).
Woaaaah. The salaries not bad at $165k on average
 

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