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nonya2000

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don’t know about this year but there was one last year in the extension 1 resources
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rose bay secondary college
Find the legit test paper here: https://www.studocu.com/en-au/document/amity-college/physics/physics-2024-neap-trial/108582488 . Rose Bay, a poor school, probably recieved a viewing sample of the test paper. Since they didn't buy it, all they did was pirate it and take screenshots of it and put it into their hideous paper.
 

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they only copied some of the questions, not the whole paper.

but if you want to delete on the basis of copying, you'd have to delete everything i think.

for example the 2010 hsc maths ext 2 Q8 - copying from a resource from the mathematical association of america, hence subject to us copyright law which stipulates although copying ideas is not a breach of copyright, copying the expression of those ideas is a breach.

so there is nothing there saying "reproduced with permission from the mathematical association of america", yet the expression of the ideas in that question did in fact come from this

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and so may be deemed a breach of us copyright law.

so are we going to tell nesa to delete that exam from their website?

it opens a big can of worms - resulting in deleting everything ..... and is that what we really want?
 

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they only copied some of the questions, not the whole paper.

but if you want to delete on the basis of copying, you'd have to delete everything i think.

for example the 2010 hsc maths ext 2 Q8 - copying from a resource from the mathematical association of america, hence subject to us copyright law which stipulates although copying ideas is not a breach of copyright, copying the expression of those ideas is a breach.

so there is nothing there saying "reproduced with permission from the mathematical association of america", yet the expression of the ideas in that question did in fact come from this

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and so may be deemed a breach of us copyright law.

so are we going to tell nesa to delete that exam from their website?

it opens a big can of worms - resulting in deleting everything ..... and is that what we really want?
here's another more recent version of copying

one thing which is common between copyright laws in the us and australia is that copying an idea is not a breach, but copying the expression of that idea is a breach

in 2024 maths ext. 2 hsc q16c, the expression of the idea was copied without saying "reproduced with permission of S. K. Patel" who holds the copyright to

Patel, S.K., Excel HSC 4 UNIT MATHS, Pascal Press, 1996

wherein we find on page 179 Exercise 7.1 Q7

patel-excel-ex7.1-q7.png
and so should nesa delete ext. 2 paper from website now?
 
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