Could I enter this course with my ATAR? (1 Viewer)

[DoTheFlip123]

Hey, I got an ATAR of 92.35, and am planning to do a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies / Bachelor of Commerce at UNSW (which has an LSR of 98.00)

Through EAS, I have 4 circumstances at the moment (Low SES area, Refugee background, Death of a family member, Financial Disadvantage) and need around 5.65 more ATAR points to be eligible.

 

[justletmespeak123]

likely (provided you have adjustment points in extension math), also check hsc plus calculator to see if u qualify for any adjustment points based on ur hsc performance in specific subjects (you can have a maximum of 5)... but based on the subjects u do (standard 2 math) its extremely hard to get in

 

[rh_06]

Hey, I got an ATAR of 92.35, and am planning to do a Bachelor of Actuarial Studies / Bachelor of Commerce at UNSW (which has an LSR of 98.00)

Through EAS, I have 4 circumstances at the moment (Low SES area, Refugee background, Death of a family member, Financial Disadvantage) and need around 5.65 more ATAR points to be eligible.

I'm not 100% sure but I think this degree may be available for HSC Plus (Might wanna call UNS to check that though). That way, your eligible for some points if you did either English Advanced, Ext 1, or Ext 2 (given that you got a B5,6 or equivalent).
Keep in mind thought that the LSR (Lowest selection rank) is 98, so that means majority of the people would probably be around the 99 to 99.95 mark which makes your chances of getting in quite slim. I'd recommend having a backup course or if you really want to get in to that degree only, look into doing an Internal Program Transfer (IPT)

 

[coolcat6778]

I'm not 100% sure but I think this degree may be available for HSC Plus (Might wanna call UNS to check that though). That way, your eligible for some points if you did either English Advanced, Ext 1, or Ext 2 (given that you got a B5,6 or equivalent).
Keep in mind thought that the LSR (Lowest selection rank) is 98, so that means majority of the people would probably be around the 99 to 99.95 mark which makes your chances of getting in quite slim. I'd recommend having a backup course or if you really want to get in to that degree only, look into doing an Internal Program Transfer (IPT)

you need 4u math. They should have awarded a band 6 in math advanced at least 1 point

 

[DoTheFlip123]

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you need 4u math. They should have awarded a band 6 in math advanced at least 1 point

oh hell naw what

Im tryna play my victim cards through EAS HSCPlus lowk greedy with this.

 

[Armon]

If you did standard maths, I would really advise you to not pursue an Actuary degree. It is essentially a maths degree and even some of the kids who did 4u and got e4s often struggle with it. Commerce is chill though.

 

[coolcat6778]

If you did standard maths, I would really advise you to not pursue an Actuary degree. It is essentially a maths degree and even some of the kids who did 4u and got e4s often struggle with it. Commerce is chill though.

what if u got 73 exam mark for 4u

 

[Armon]

what if u got 73 exam mark for 4u

not the right fit.

 

[Anna9191]

If you did standard maths, I would really advise you to not pursue an Actuary degree. It is essentially a maths degree and even some of the kids who did 4u and got e4s often struggle with it. Commerce is chill though.

Yeah I heard the math is like.. lethal.

Yes I did standard math, got a HSC mark of 95/100 which was really good for me personally (teachers didn't put me in advanced because my Yr 10 results were bad). I'm still Debating between Actuarial Studies, Commerce, And Comp Sci (dual degrees).

 

[coolcat6778]

Yeah I heard the math is like.. lethal.

Yes I did standard math, got a HSC mark of 95/100 which was really good for me personally (teachers didn't put me in advanced because my Yr 10 results were bad). I'm still Debating between Actuarial Studies, Commerce, And Comp Sci (dual degrees).

biggest mistake was listening to teachers on subject selection. They ended up as teachers because they didn't do good in school themselves (no offense). My English teachers tried to get me to switch to standard, even humiliating me in front of the whole class. My assessment marks were around 40% in prelim, and in trial I got 30%. One of my English teachers said "yOu ShOuLd SwItCh To StaNdArD wHeRe YoU cAn AtLeAsT gEt a BanD 3" yet here I got a band 4 in Advanced

 

[Armon]

Yeah I heard the math is like.. lethal.

Yes I did standard math, got a HSC mark of 95/100 which was really good for me personally (teachers didn't put me in advanced because my Yr 10 results were bad). I'm still Debating between Actuarial Studies, Commerce, And Comp Sci (dual degrees).

95 in standard maths is not the kind of mark you want going into an actuary degree. For context, the first maths course you take in actuary is MATH1151, which is considered a child's play easy course compared to the later courses. In the description of MATH1151 on the course handbook, it says the following:

"Assumed knowledge: HSC Mathematics Extension 1. Students will be expected to have achieved a combined mark of at least 140 in HSC Mathematics Advanced and HSC Mathematics Extension 1 or a combined mark of 175 in HSC Mathematics Extension 1 and Extension 2."

So they're essentially saying you're expected to have a course mark of 95/100 in MathAdv and a 45/50 in 3u before you even step foot in the classroom. And the courses only get significantly, significantly harder.

 

[liamkk112]

if u work hard over the holidays to learn ext2 i think you'd be okay, but it will definitely be difficult considering the pace that they're gonna move

 

[Armon]

Yeah I heard the math is like.. lethal.

Yes I did standard math, got a HSC mark of 95/100 which was really good for me personally (teachers didn't put me in advanced because my Yr 10 results were bad). I'm still Debating between Actuarial Studies, Commerce, And Comp Sci (dual degrees).

If you do choose to pursue Actuarial Studies, which again I really don't recommend, make sure to double with either Commerce or Comp Sci. You need a longer degree than single Actuary in order to fit in the required exemption courses to take advantage of all the actuary licensing without having to sit the out of uni exams (very expensive). Computer Science math is far more doable, since its just a few courses that you can rote learn but you will still struggle with it coming from a standard background. The only required courses are MATH1131 (slightly easier 1151, still assumed knowledge 3u), MATH1231 and MATH1081. I'd recommend Comm/CS over an actl degree, but genuinely single Comm is probably best option.

 

[rh_06]

If you do choose to pursue Actuarial Studies, which again I really don't recommend, make sure to double with either Commerce or Comp Sci. You need a longer degree than single Actuary in order to fit in the required exemption courses to take advantage of all the actuary licensing without having to sit the out of uni exams (very expensive). Computer Science math is far more doable, since its just a few courses that you can rote learn but you will still struggle with it coming from a standard background. The only required courses are MATH1131 (slightly easier 1151, still assumed knowledge 3u), MATH1231 and MATH1081. I'd recommend Comm/CS over an actl degree, but genuinely single Comm is probably best option.

I agree with u on this. But js another Q, is it possible for op to extend/prolong the degree? Specifically the Actuarial's degree. That would maybe make things easier. Cos I know for example, Clinical Science at Macquarie is a 2 year course, but people I know have prolonged it to 3 years etc to somewhat decrease the load or slow down the course.

 

[katev3s]

I agree with u on this. But js another Q, is it possible for op to extend/prolong the degree? Specifically the Actuarial's degree. That would maybe make things easier. Cos I know for example, Clinical Science at Macquarie is a 2 year course, but people I know have prolonged it to 3 years etc to somewhat decrease the load or slow down the course.

Yes it is! You can reduce the workload of your degree by unenrolling units or simply not enrolling into enough units that is equivalent to full-time. However, I know some degrees have a limit for instances, some might have a 6 year max enrollment. There are two pathways, full-time and part-time. Not sure at all universities, but MQ accepts 3 units as both full-time and part-time. 2 units and below is considered part-time. You can always reduce your workload to prolong your degree. Just some degrees not accept doing part-time. You'd have to research some of that yourself.

 

[Armon]

I agree with u on this. But js another Q, is it possible for op to extend/prolong the degree? Specifically the Actuarial's degree. That would maybe make things easier. Cos I know for example, Clinical Science at Macquarie is a 2 year course, but people I know have prolonged it to 3 years etc to somewhat decrease the load or slow down the course.

I mean you could, but either way you're doing 4 years, its just that you'll graduate with one degree instead of 2 and you'll have a very odd 4th year doing like 4 courses across the year.

With how tiny and competitive the actuary job market is in Australia, having a commerce/math/computer science double is a great way of ensuring that you have something else to fall back on, mainly i guess jobs in data science or finance depending on what you choose to double with.

 

[DoTheFlip123]

I mean you could, but either way you're doing 4 years, its just that you'll graduate with one degree instead of 2 and you'll have a very odd 4th year doing like 4 courses across the year.

With how tiny and competitive the actuary job market is in Australia, having a commerce/math/computer science double is a great way of ensuring that you have something else to fall back on, mainly i guess jobs in data science or finance depending on what you choose to double with.

I heard the actuary Job market is pretty competitive as well. Would the degree (combined with either Comp sci or Commerce) allow for job opportunities across many industries besides being an actuary/risk analyst? Like even something along the lines of a Data analyst, Economist, consulting, accounting, or some other sort of financial analyst that does not happen to be solely focused on risk measurement or working for insurance companies?

If not, I might do commerce / comp sci OR commerce / engineering