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how long have you had your Ls?

But a year from now I'll have my unrestricted license. So it won't be a problem. It'll be like people who got their Ls before you had to do 120 hours.

Nah, the laws come into effect in June. I got my Ps today.

Yeah, I can't see how it will make a difference. Do you know if bike restrictions for P2 will be the same for L and P1? I would be pissed off riding 250s for 3 years...

So how would tax cuts make things better?

Alright, let's clear this up. I agree with the people here who think government handouts are stupid. I am not saying it works. Investment in infrastructure =/= government handouts.

I am a member. So when was it?

L-platers, get your Ps soon. I got mine today so it won't apply to me.

I know. government handouts =/= investment in infrastructure. Go back and read my post.

But tax cuts don't have an immediate effect on the economy. And even then it isn't certain that people will spend that extra money. If we're in a recession people are likely to save a good portion of it anyway. At least government spending goes straight into the economy.

It's not free money. Government spending is only worthwhile if it goes into infrastructure or something similar.

A recession is two successive quarters of negative growth. And Australia is not 'still growing as a counrty'. We've just had our first quarter of negative growth.

not really buddy.

Were the sausage sandwiches for members today?

yep. http://www.econ.mq.edu.au/website_administration/economics_studies_macquarie_university/Econ_docs/student_support/FNN04_BAppFin_BEc.pdf

But when riding in the suburbs you'll be start stopping a lot at lights. It's best to ride a bit quicker so you can escape the packs that form because of this. But obviously this wouldn't apply for all situations. They won't be able to see you when you're in their blind spot. So when you...

The 2nd edition has one chapter that the 1st doesn't.

It's actually recommended that you ride a little bit faster than traffic. That way you don't stay in anyone's blind spot for long and you can escape the pack of cars. you're riding a bike. If you want to overtake a semi just bump it down a gear or two and accelerate quickly. Otherwise just ride...

Also, Riding a bike in peak hour traffic is fun whilst driving a car during peak hour is torture.

sounds more fair.