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I completely agree. Given we have successfully derailed this topic, I might create a separate abortion thread to keep the debate off here. It's not really relevant to the topic. Unless it dies down in which case I won't bother.

I've already stated that adoption is not a viable option. Orphanages are already overcrowded, underfunded, and the conditions are terrible and often children are treated awfully. If I'm wrong correct me but I am convinced that I am not. But the world is already overflowing with unwanted...

I agree entirely and this is probably the only problem I can find with the Sex party. Also that they don't go far enough with drug policies, but that's just me.

Mods can I please neg-rep this guy again?

1: I've already covered that argument - I specifically said that it is not a valid response. 2: How about we kill grown people instead? What's your solution to it? 3: Fuck off. Watch the fucking video and understand the guy's points before you dismiss it as bigotry. It's rational and logical and...

"The Pro Life Movement: The ludicrous notion that a foetus is equivalent to a human being and that holding this belief entitles one to apply this ethic even to those who disagree with it's precepts." Well, yes, that is what you said.

Conveniently missed the point.

I have a question for you on this subject: Let's say a woman is pregnant and she doesn't want the child. But she can't get an abortion for one reason or another (too expensive, religious reasons, social reasons, legality etc.). So she is forced to raise this child, this unwanted accidental...

Pretty much.

Exactly

Why? I support people's right to make choices for themselves, and you support the government's right to make choices for people. You have no right to decide what people can or cannot do with/for/to themselves. Get over it. I think you are forgetting the countless different possible...

Oh for god's sake.

And where are their qualifications for such a claim?

If you don't care, then do us all a favour and donkey vote it. I think you need to read some facts about drug laws. Specifically: a) They don't solve the problem b) They make it worse. Do some research or at least some thinking. The reason our drug problem is so bad is because they are illegal.

This.

This is a brilliant graph. I also realised I didn't take into account the liver damage, and probably multiple other factors, so disregard what I said earlier.

They were right. Tobacco is not carcinogenic at all.

http://www.sexparty.org.au/ I'm actually incredibly surprised they don't get many votes. If people actually read their policies they would likely at least support them. I think you need to read up on party positions and values, instead of blindly agreeing with what your family believes, and...

As a substance, it's not usually bad if you know how to handle it. It's not actively good, but it's not detrimental to your health unless you let it control you (alcoholism, binge/overdose, driving etc.).

He is fucking awful, true, but I think people will go with him over Gillard. If Turnbull was leader though, I'd vote for Liberal hands down.