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What he's talking about here is people who are considered 'vegetables', i.e. people without higher level brain functions, not actual vegetables.

So if you terminate it after then, should it be considered murder?

What about if it has a problem?

Hey guys. Just wondering your opinions on when a fetus becomes a baby? When should/shouldn't we abort a pregnancy? Interesting case, which was what started me thinking about this in the first place... I was talking to my school chaplain today and he was telling me about a friend of his who...

This is a good article arguing for gay rights. It's from an American point of view, but still relevant. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-thomas/the-big-gay-chip-on-my-sh_b_208183.html

Thanks for defending me, Tangent. :)

Buddhism, Christianity and Islam, with our ethical area as Bioethics (abortion and euthanasia) Buddhism: Tenzin Palmo Pilgrimage to Bodh Gaya. Christianity: Pope John IIXXX Baptism Islam: Al Ghazali Haaj

I don't think we should go back to the moon, because: - It's not particularly sensible at this time of recession or deficit or whatever stage it is we're in now. - There are many, many problems here on Earth that warrant spending money on that are definitely more important than another moon...

Did you say, learn EngliSH, Iron? Hmm.

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And? This doesn't automatically make me an 'idiot'. I agree that I mayn't have had certain life experiences, but on the other hand, you know barely anything about me other than my graduating year. What could you know about things which inform my views? But anyway...this is irrelevant and very...

Why? Simply because I disagree with you? If I thought myself an idiot I wouldn't even bother posting, as I would consider my views and arguments not worthy of sharing.

So what do you think?

Ok, fair enough. I was more referring to the 'fool' thing. It was just the tone.

Iron, please don't insult me. Just because we have different views doesn't mean we have to label each other...for example, many times I have been tempted to label you as a 'crazy, Bible-bashing conservative', but have refrained because I think you're entitled to your views in the end, though I...

Iron, you still haven't answered my question. How would you feel if someone forced you to renounce a part of you? If homosexuality is really so full of the 'empty, fleeting meaning of materialism' then surely gay people would seek something more? The reason they can't just denounce it is they...

But in the end, is homosexuality hurting anyone? There are beneficial genetic variations, detrimental genetic variations and neutral variations. Not all are necessarily bad. And in the end, whether genetic or not, there's a crucial difference between homosexuality and alcoholism. See, the thing...

I agree. It's just another fear of difference thing. Good quote from Tony Blair:

You're right, in a way. So called 'liberals', as I've said before, can be just as bigoted and narrow minded as those they call 'conservatives'.

Yes your majesty. :tongue: