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I'll make this nice and simple: You're referring I think to contextual interpretation, which is one thing - you interpret not Eliot's message but the context in which that message can be applied. What I'm referring to is interpretation of the message itself. Eliot's writing is so ambiguous...

Gabriel. NO! Your view is completely stupid. Shutup and listen to me and what i have to say. Eliot is a gay man =)

Yea i noe this has like nuffink 2 do wif da HSC, but some other threads r like irrelevant to, so thought i'd post this up newaiz :) So which team you going for? And do ya fink dey got a real chance of winning the World Cup

So in conclusion, at the end of it all, considering all the evidence and arguments put forward, only one real conclusion can be drawn from all of this. Eliot was a gay man =)

for example say a poem describing "leaves changin colour" to one school girl this poem may be interpreted as being about time, and the cyclic motion of life. This poem means a lot to this individual as she is just beinging to think about her place in the world. What was the author trying to...

lol shudup gabriel :P

oh and yea..how can ya tell if a mod is watchin diz thread?

... you quoted yourself as evidence how strange. of course you can concider why elliot may have written what he did, but you can only make speculations, and hwilst this is interesting.. poetry's purpose is to make you feel something Elliot cannot determine how you feel. you clearly...

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay. Enoguh of this garbage of how the poem makes YOU feel. When Eliot was alive and writing the "Hollow Men", u actually think he was caring about how it's gonna make US feel. Of course NOT!!!! He was focusing on how he was going to present his point, and bring it...

lol well as long as ya get da gist of what im tryin 2 say den... it's all good! aaannd btw... eliot is a gay man =)

so that he could make someone like you feel good about YOUR point, just because you can find some way of justifying your POINT from his work? It's about HIS point - that's why texts are written, author's trying to send messages of THEIR OWN.

why would eliot have written his work, if not to make HIS point?

okay well ive explained why a dozen times alreadi, n maybe if ya re read sum of da stuff ive sed, you'd understand a bit better

awesome thanks for da advice =)

The message shouldnt change - contextual intepretation is different, its bout applying the SAME message elsewhere, but the message is intrinsically the same - jihadis change the message, as well as contextually interpret it - but contextual interpretation does not mean changing the message, or...

A.I ...M8 I GOT SUMFINK 2 SAY 2 YA, ALRITE? - "It seems more apparent that you do not understand the whole point of analysing the poem. The context you have been brought up in, seems to be about modern values and prosaic understandings. Writing something straightforward and explicitly conveying...

I'm a lazy kid, so I don't really know when I should start studying for the HSC...i mean, it seems pretty far away to me...:mad1: so i just wanted ta noe... who's started studying for it already?

C. S. Lewis thought his poetry ludicrous, and his literary criticism "superficial and unscholarly" In case you don't know it yet, this is an attack on T.S Eliot, his use of allusions and his ambiguousness, and why his poetry (specifically The Hollow Men) is not 'beautiful' as other people...

I think you're right about me missing the meaning of poetry...but that might be because the poet's try to make it so hard to realize what the bloody meaning is...i'll give you an example - The eyes are not here There are no eyes here In this valley of dying stars In this hollow valley...

I just finished learning about T.S Eliot (if that's how ya spell his name) and seriously, his poetry just...sucks. Really, I mean, if he's trying to make a point, why doesnt he just make it, instead of going round and about through all these weird allusions and poetic stuff.... And poetry in...