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THIS MONTH IN AFGHAN HISTORY
-More Reasons for TacoTerrorist et al to Romanticise it-

This is Taliban

Face covered Taliban militants hold their heavy and light weapons at a undisclosed location in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008. More than 2,300 people — mostly militants — have died in insurgency-related violence this year, according to an Associated Press tally of official figures. U.S. troops on Monday reinforced a remote military outpost after well-armed militants got inside and killed nine American soldiers in the deadliest assault on U.S. forces in Afghanistan in three years. Attacks in eastern Afghanistan are up 40 percent this year compared with last year.

Taliban see woman...get very excited

"Muhammad Jihad, Derka Derka", they cry.
"Kill the women for they...umm...errrr...are prostitutes for the American Infidel"

Kidnap Innocent Women

"Execute them!"

Two unidentified Afghan Women chat with each other a few minutes before they were executed by Taliban in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on late Saturday, July 12, 2008.


Local people watch two Afghan women shot and killed by Taliban in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on Sunday, July 13, 2008. Taliban fighters told Associated Press Television News that the two were executed for allegedly running a prostitution ring catering to U.S. soldiers and other foreign contractors at a U.S. base in Ghazni city.



An Indian security guard stands inside the embassy premises after a suicide attack at the Indian embassy in Kabul July 7, 2008.

An Afghan policeman walks among the dead and wounded bodies at the site of a suicide attack near the Indian Embassy in central Kabul, Afghanistan, on Monday, July 7, 2008. A car bomb ripped through the front wall of the Indian Embassy in central Kabul on Monday, killing 40 people in what appeared to be the deadliest attack in Afghanistan's capital since the fall of the Taliban

A wounded man stands at the site of a suicide car bomb blast in Kabul July 7, 2008.



Indian soldiers stand behind pictures of the Indian victims of last Monday's suicide attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul at a commemoration ceremony, July 13, 2008.

Afghan and Indian officials pay their respects during a memorial ceremony for Indian Embassy employees killed in a suicide attack last week in Kabul, Afghanistan on Sunday July 13, 2008. India's embassy in Afghanistan began issuing visas again Sunday, nearly a week after a massive bombing at its front gate killed 58 people, the ambassador said.


An Afghan woman begs in Kabul street to help feed their four children and pay their house rent in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008.



An Afghan shopkeeper is seen in his shop which was destroyed in Monday's suicide attack near the Indian Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008.




DON'T FORGET THE PROPAGANDA!
ALL AFGHANISTAN HATES THE U.S!






A U.S. Marine, from the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, treats an injured Afghan child at his base in the town of Garmser in Helmand Province of Afghanistan Tuesday, July 8, 2008.
 
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montage of greatness

taco is a disgrace to true afghans
 
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ari89 said:
THIS MONTH IN AFGHAN HISTORY
-More Reasons for TacoTerrorist et al to Romanticise it-

This is Taliban

Face covered Taliban militants hold their heavy and light weapons at a undisclosed location in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008. More than 2,300 people — mostly militants — have died in insurgency-related violence this year, according to an Associated Press tally of official figures. U.S. troops on Monday reinforced a remote military outpost after well-armed militants got inside and killed nine American soldiers in the deadliest assault on U.S. forces in Afghanistan in three years. Attacks in eastern Afghanistan are up 40 percent this year compared with last year.

Taliban see woman...get very excited

"Muhammad Jihad, Derka Derka", they cry.
"Kill the women for they...umm...errrr...are prostitutes for the American Infidel"

Kidnap Innocent Women

"Execute them!"

Two unidentified Afghan Women chat with each other a few minutes before they were executed by Taliban in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on late Saturday, July 12, 2008.


Local people watch two Afghan women shot and killed by Taliban in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on Sunday, July 13, 2008. Taliban fighters told Associated Press Television News that the two were executed for allegedly running a prostitution ring catering to U.S. soldiers and other foreign contractors at a U.S. base in Ghazni city.



An Indian security guard stands inside the embassy premises after a suicide attack at the Indian embassy in Kabul July 7, 2008.

An Afghan policeman walks among the dead and wounded bodies at the site of a suicide attack near the Indian Embassy in central Kabul, Afghanistan, on Monday, July 7, 2008. A car bomb ripped through the front wall of the Indian Embassy in central Kabul on Monday, killing 40 people in what appeared to be the deadliest attack in Afghanistan's capital since the fall of the Taliban

A wounded man stands at the site of a suicide car bomb blast in Kabul July 7, 2008.



Indian soldiers stand behind pictures of the Indian victims of last Monday's suicide attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul at a commemoration ceremony, July 13, 2008.

Afghan and Indian officials pay their respects during a memorial ceremony for Indian Embassy employees killed in a suicide attack last week in Kabul, Afghanistan on Sunday July 13, 2008. India's embassy in Afghanistan began issuing visas again Sunday, nearly a week after a massive bombing at its front gate killed 58 people, the ambassador said.


An Afghan woman begs in Kabul street to help feed their four children and pay their house rent in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008.



An Afghan shopkeeper is seen in his shop which was destroyed in Monday's suicide attack near the Indian Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008.




DON'T FORGET THE PROPAGANDA!
ALL AFGHANISTAN HATES THE U.S!





A U.S. Marine, from the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, treats an injured Afghan child at his base in the town of Garmser in Helmand Province of Afghanistan Tuesday, July 8, 2008.
Have you got a spare application form handy?
 

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US is going to get their asses served to them in Afganistan just like they got in Vietnam. If the Russians couldn't take Afganistan in 20 years of hardcore fighting the US sure as hell won't be able to with their poor execuse for a military deployment.
 

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The kid was accused of throwing a grenade out of a rubble which killed a US soldier, but no one saw him throw it. And hey they dropped a couple of bombs on a compound and killed what like 20 people it's all good but cause there "terrorists".
Americans are fuckhead, end of story.
 
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Zrap said:
The kid was accused of throwing a grenade out of a rubble which killed a US soldier, but no one saw him throw it. And hey they dropped a couple of bombs on a compound and killed what like 20 people it's all good but cause there "terrorists".
Americans are fuckhead, end of story.
Totally agree. When Americans kill innocents, it's 'collateral damage' but when so-called 'terrorists' attempt to defend themselves they are labelled terrorists and thrown in a box for 5 years while 'pending' trial.

Atrocious.
 

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i support Taliban fighting USA/coalition but i do not support the Taliban ideology and they should be eradicated.


if, the USA really gived a fuck about the people of Afghanistan, the best way to topple the Taliban would have been from within.

BTW, every time an Aussie soldier dies......does that mean he died for my freedom? just want to clarify this? because i dont feel any "free- er"
 
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"They will hand over the terrorists or they will share in their fate" said Bush. No specifics were attached to the threat, though there followed a statement suggesting military action: "Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there."

The killed and wounded Afghani chuildren found that one out.


The Taliban responded through their embassy in Pakistan, asserting that there was no evidence in their possession linking bin Laden to the September 11 attacks. They also stressed that bin Laden was a guest in their country. Pashtun and Taliban codes of behavior require that guests be granted hospitality and asylum.[23][24]


On September 22, 2001, the United Arab Emirates, and on the following day, Saudi Arabia withdrew their recognition of the Taliban as the legal government of Afghanistan, leaving neighboring Pakistan as the only remaining country with diplomatic ties.


On October 7, 2001, before the U.S. and British attack began, the Taliban offered to try bin Laden in Afghanistan in an Islamic court[25]. This offer was rejected by the U.S., and the bombing of Kabul commenced the same day.

United State of America, just doing their part for world security in a desperate bid to spread the light of democracy, bombs capital of Kabul, killing thousands of terrorists*.

*Terrorists actually civilians.


October 14, 2001, seven days into the U.S./British bombing campaign, the Taliban offered to surrender Osama bin Laden to a third country for trial, if the bombing halted and they were shown evidence of his involvement in the September 11 terrorist attacks. This offer was also rejected by U.S. President Bush, who declared "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty."[26]

Bush doesn't want to stop bombing the country and showing his militry might.


The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) did not authorize the U.S.-led military campaign in Afghanistan (Operation Enduring Freedom). There is some debate as to whether UNSC authorization was required, centered around the question of whether the invasion was an act of collective self-defense provided for under Article 51 of the UN Charter, or an act of aggression.[27]


Of course, US gets away scot-free with a blatant breach of international law.



Also, the U.S. Administration did not officially declare war, and labelled Taliban troops and supporters terrorists rather than soldiers, denying them the protections of the Geneva Convention and due process of law. This position has been successfully challenged in the U.S. Supreme Court[28] and questioned even by military lawyers responsible for prosecuting affected prisoners.[29]


Good that it has been 'questioned' but is anyone going to face trial for this? No.



On December 20, 2001, the UNSC did authorize the creation of an International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) with authority to take all measures necessary to fulfill its mandate of assisting the Afghan Interim Authority in maintaining security.[30] Command of the ISAF passed to NATO on August 11, 2003.[31]

It continues, the list grows longer. But I'm sure evidence doesn't stand for much aginst a few isolated photos. Some of the photos are actually incriminating, because the woman and the child begging for money probably had a father before the US illegally detained him.

EDIT: The Taliban blow, but a Taliban government in Afghanistan is better than the shitstorm warzone it is now.
 
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This Al Qaeda is bullshit.

It's all a diversion so that Bush can pass the FISA laws and the other Hitler like enabling acts that will centralize more power to the president.
 
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I still find it fascinating how well the media has portrayed Sept 11. We did not hear the end of it when approx. 3000 people were killed in the twin towers attack. The war in afghanistan (only since 2001) has killed more than tens of thousands of civilians. According to wikipedia TOTAL CIVILIAN DEATHS was over 7100 in 2007 alone. (Further statistics from more reliable sources are welcome)

Does this seem like a fair counter-attack or is the USA going overboard?

PS Oh and I forgot to mention these figures do not include Iraq.
 

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It's all good but cause George W Bush says it is........ fucking pinhead he is.
 

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Local people watch two Afghan women shot and killed by Taliban in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on Sunday, July 13, 2008. Taliban fighters told Associated Press Television News that the two were executed for allegedly running a prostitution ring catering to U.S. soldiers and other foreign contractors at a U.S. base in Ghazni city.​


um they are prostitues, can't you see there arms showing...lmao only joking and i dont really like that burqa thing anyway it sorta scares me

ari89 said:

An Afghan woman begs in Kabul street to help feed their four children and pay their house rent in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008.
i really dont see how that is the fault of the taliban...if anything its the U.S's fault.

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An Afghan shopkeeper is seen in his shop which was destroyed in Monday's suicide attack near the Indian Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008.
im not sayin this wasnt an act of taliban but not every suicide bombing is done by taliban...its sometimes done by normal afghani civilians sick to death of the invaders of their country killing and raping their family and friends

The BBC's Alastair Leithead is the first journalist to reach the scene of a US air raid which Afghan authorities say killed about 50 civilians in the east of the country on 6 July. He reports on what he found:

On a hillside high in the mountains of eastern Afghanistan there are three charred clearings where the American bombs struck.
Scattered around are chunks of twisted metal, blood stains and small fragments of sequinned and brightly decorated clothes - the material Afghan brides wear on their wedding day.
After hours of driving to the village deep in the bandit country of Nangarhar's mountains we heard time and again the terrible account of that awful day.
What began as celebration ended with maybe 52 people dead, most of them women and children, and others badly injured. (there were only three men among the dead)
The US forces said they targeted insurgents in a strike. But from what I saw with my own eyes and heard from the many mourners, no militants were among the dead.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7504574.stm




http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080711/wl_afp/afghanistanunrestuscivilians_080711145612


wow brave fucking america fighting for truth and justice....and bombing weddings full of innocent women and children


ari89 said:
DON'T FORGET THE PROPAGANDA!
ALL AFGHANISTAN HATES THE U.S!






A U.S. Marine, from the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, treats an injured Afghan child at his base in the town of Garmser in Helmand Province of Afghanistan Tuesday, July 8, 2008.
umm they're like the afghani govts. army its obvious as fuck that they're going to be interacting and working with US soldiers...if anything its propaganda BY americans...oh look afghanis love us , we're helping them and they want us there...BULL FUCKING SHIT...you know how many of these pictures were shown in the media when the iraq war happend and especially when everyone went against it...and as for the last picture, if your child's both legs were badly injured and someone came to help, even if it was satan, its highly unlikely you'd turn them away...
 

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I still find it fascinating how well the media has portrayed Sept 11. We did not hear the end of it when approx. 3000 people were killed in the twin towers attack. The war in afghanistan (only since 2001) has killed more than tens of thousands of civilians. According to wikipedia TOTAL CIVILIAN DEATHS was over 7100 in 2007 alone. (Further statistics from more reliable sources are welcome)

Does this seem like a fair counter-attack or is the USA going overboard?
You are aware how silly treating those statistics as comparable is?
 

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its sometimes done by normal afghani civilians sick to death of the invaders of their country killing and raping their family and friends
So they blow up innocent civilians in no way connected to the US forces:confused:

Awesome logic, guy
 

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mate, check your inbox.
I'll read it when I'm off the phone...it might require brain power
 
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I'll read it when I'm off the phone...it might require brain power
Yep, it's some help for my assessment. Thanks mate!

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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mythical chaos said:
Please enlighten me.
Do you remove an oppressive dictatorship from power, and kill or displace twice as many people as it would have otherwise in the same timeframe, or do you let it remain and kill and oppress many more people over time?

It's rhetorical by the way.
 

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mythical chaos said:
Please enlighten me.
Well, firstly civilian deaths in 2007 were about 2000 deaths not 7000:p

And to blame all civilian deaths on the invasion is fallacious. As my post above showed, Afghan Taliban and other groups kill innocent civilians that have absolutely nothing to do with foreign forces in the region but they always end up being blamed on the US.

And in regard to Iraqi civilian casualties-
protip: SECTARIAN VIOLENCE BETWEEN SHIA AND SUNNI MUSLIMS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER 1000 YEARS AND DID NOT START WITH THE U.S. IN IRAQ
 

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