An atar of 95? (2 Viewers)

[The Savior]

Hey everyone I am aiming for an atar of 95. I was just wondering if this is possible with my marks.
The following are my raw marks for the trials and overall rank:
English Advanced: 90% 1st
Maths 2u: 87% 1st
Mathematics Extension 1: 67% 2nd
Chemistry: 81% 1st
Physics: 80% 1st
Biology: 89% 1st
I am pretty sure that my school bought the independent trial papers so they weren't really easy or anything. And my school is generally ranked between 200-350. (Last year's cohort ranked 390 and were about as smart as rocks... my year is not very good either, haha nobody studies more than an hour per day)
Any atar predictions would be awesome!

 

[Silly Sausage]

Yes

 

[mrpotatoed]

Considering you are first in pretty much all your subjects and then second for the one you aren't first... you could get 99.95, its in your hands and depends purely on how you do I suppose.

 

[A1P]

According to this UAC table
http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/atar/2014-tables/A8-A9.pdf

95 ATAR = aggregate around 404 marks. That means an average of 81% after scaling etc right?

 

[BlueGas]

According to this UAC table
http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/atar/2014-tables/A8-A9.pdf

95 ATAR = aggregate around 404 marks. That means an average of 81% after scaling etc right?

lol in the same link it tells you this "This table shows the lowest aggregate of scaled marks corresponding to each of the selected ATARs"

 

[BlueGas]

Howcome on this link though the aggregates to ATAR are different? (on page 8)

http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/atar/2014-ScalingReport.pdf

 

[A1P]

Howcome on this link though the aggregates to ATAR are different? (on page 8)

Page 8 table 3.1 shows ATAR-eligible percentiles.

See table 3.2 page 10, aggregate 400 = 94.4 ATAR which sits well with 95 ATAR = 404 aggr.

 

[BlueGas]

Page 8 table 3.1 shows ATAR-eligible percentiles.

See table 3.2 page 10, aggregate 400 = 94.4 ATAR which sits well with 95 ATAR = 404 aggr.

What's the different between ATAR eligible percentile and ATAR?

 

[A1P]

What's the different between ATAR eligible percentile and ATAR?

I'm pretty sure ATAR-eligible percentile is against the smaller number who attain that level whereas the commonly known ATAR is against the whole cohort who started at year 7 together i.e. including those who didn't reach year 11, 12.

Btw 404 is out of 500 after scaling, thus equates to 81% average across the counted subjects.

 

[BlueGas]

What is an aggregate though? Is an aggregate of a subject basically the final mark you achieved for that subject? So for example a person achieved a final, scaled HSC mark of 80 in English Advanced, is that basically his aggregate for that subject?

 

[A1P]

What is an aggregate though?

See sections 2.3 & 2.4 page 4 of the doc you linked for ATAR eligibility and aggregates

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2.4 Calculation of the ATAR

The ATAR is based on an aggregate of scaled marks in 10 units of ATAR courses comprising:
-- the best two units of English
-- the best eight units from the remaining units
======

 

[BlueGas]

See sections 2.3 & 2.4 page 4 of the doc you linked for ATAR eligibility and aggregates

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2.4 Calculation of the ATAR

The ATAR is based on an aggregate of scaled marks in 10 units of ATAR courses comprising:
-- the best two units of English
-- the best eight units from the remaining units
======

So an aggregate for a subject is your final scaled mark for that subject?

 

[A1P]

So an aggregate for a subject is your final scaled mark for that subject?

Yes but technically there's no such thing as aggregate for a subject

Subject/unit has a final scaled mark, 10 of them add up to the overall aggregate.

 

[BlueGas]

Yes but technically there's no such thing as aggregate for a subject

Subject/unit has a final scaled mark, 10 of them add up to the overall aggregate.

So basically looking at the A9 table in this link http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/atar/2014-tables/A8-A9.pdf ( the one you provided earlier), you can get an ATAR of 80 if you get a final mark of 64 across all your subjects?

 

[A1P]

you can get an ATAR of 80 if you get a final mark of 64 across all your subjects?

Yep I believe that's correct.

 

[BlueGas]

Yep I believe that's correct.

Sounds too good to be true though.

 

[A1P]

Sounds too good to be true though.

Take a look at Fig 3.4 page 10 in the doc you linked, we can almost draw a straight line between 150 & 350 and say ATAR = Aggr / 4.
Remarkable isn't it

 

[BlueGas]

Take a look at Fig 3.4 page 10 in the doc you linked, we can almost draw a straight line between 150 & 350 and say ATAR = Aggr / 4.
Remarkable isn't it

What do you mean by this?

 

[A1P]

What do you mean by this?

Just reinforcing that 64% scaled unit average times 500 = 320 aggregate, divide by 4 gives 80 ATAR.
Empirical, not scientific

 

[BlueGas]

Just reinforcing that 64% scaled unit average times 500 = 320 aggregate, divide by 4 gives 80 ATAR.
Empirical, not scientific

I just spoke with UAC and they said if you get an average of 64% across all your subjects then you'd get a low ATAR...