As a young person do you feel disenfranchised by the two major parties? (1 Viewer)

[evatt]

hippie is preferable to some bible-thumping, ignorant, hawkish fuckwit.

why can't we have someone moderate and sane?

 

[57o1i]

Greens for me.

I feel like I have nothing in common with the major parties and all the arguments they're having are ones where my viewpoint isn't represented at all.

Doesn't help that both the leaders are gigantic dickheads, either.

 

[Richard Gilmore]

you cant realistically vote for the greens in the lower house unless you live in the inner-city.

tell us who you're really voting for.

 

[scuba_steve2121]

your guilty conscience may force you to vote greens but deep down you yearn for a cold hearted Liberal party, to lower taxes, brutalise criminals and rule you like a king.

rep to anyone who gets the reference

but seriously don't vote greens. has anybody actually visited their website sat down and read their policies. they're insane socialist hippies who would run Australia into grinding poverty

 

[evatt]

your guilty conscience may force you to vote greens but deep down you yearn for a cold hearted Liberal party, to lower taxes, brutalise criminals and rule you like a king.

rep to anyone who gets the reference

but seriously don't vote greens. has anybody actually visited their website sat down and read their policies. they're insane socialist hippies who would run Australia into grinding poverty

Sideshow Bob, running for mayor?

 

[Richard Gilmore]

if you were running for PM he'd vote for you - vote kevin rudd for PM

 

[scuba_steve2121]

Sideshow Bob, running for mayor?

bing bing bing we have a winner

 

[aussie-boy]

The Greens don't stand a chance because of people like scuba_steve2121, who are like the conservative baby boomers we are battling against, in that they make stupid statements without even having read the actual policies.

There's also this myth that preferences flow to the ALP, yet Bob Brown has specifically said that there will be no default preferences for the 2010 election.

EDIT: while I was writing that, just saw the new post that scuba_steve has read the policies
I dont see how a high speed train, investment in science and tech, the push for a sustainable long term economy, a harm minimisation approach to drugs and no internet filter are socialist/hippy policies

 

[evatt]

bing bing bing we have a winner

why thank you good sir .

Who is the author of "Only Turkeys have left wings"?

 

[scuba_steve2121]

The Greens don't stand a chance because of people like scuba_steve2121, who are like the conservative baby boomers we are battling against, in that they make stupid statements without even having read the actual policies.

There's also this myth that preferences flow to the ALP, yet Bob Brown has specifically said that there will be no default preferences for the 2010 election.

your are more conservative than I'll ever be. read up on AC and you will see that is a fact. secondly i have read the polices and they are simply stupid fucking Hippies who will ruin the country simple as that. Vote for a real party not dirty hippies

 

[aussie-boy]

your are more conservative than I'll ever be. read up on AC and you will see that is a fact. secondly i have read the polices and they are simply stupid fucking Hippies who will ruin the country simple as that. Vote for a real party not dirty hippies

The Greens aren't looking to run the country

They are looking to hold sufficient seats to provide a socially progressive voice in parliament which the Gov will have to consider when debating policy

They'll have no power over hardcore economic policy which the ALP and libs should agree on

 

[scuba_steve2121]

The Greens aren't looking to run the country

They are looking to hold sufficient seats to provide a socially progressive voice in parliament which the Gov will have to consider when debating policy

They'll have no power over hardcore economic policy which the ALP and libs should agree on

mate have you been to their website?

they want in and they have detailed plan to fuck up Australia which is listed under "economic policy". don't vote greens

 

[postnatal]

yeah Papen thought he could control Hitler as well

 

[Existential]

I have been feeling this way recently. I find it concerning that both parties seem to have become much more socially conservative with the directions they are heading. I find things like the idea of censored internet in a free country frightening/disgusting and both party's stances on things like gay marriage, the treatment of asylum seekers and the ongoing "tough" stances on drugs seem so backward to me.

This has left me in the position of not wanting to vote for either party, regardless of how I feel about the economic policy. Do you feel the same way, or is economic policy alone enough to give you satisfaction in choosing between the two?

many people are just saying 'greens' coz there's no other reasonable option.

but are the greens reasonable? their position in politics isn't really that clearly defined.

 

[scuba_steve2121]

yeah Papen thought he could control Hitler as well

i already said that XD

 

[evatt]

many people are just saying 'greens' coz there's no other reasonable option.

but are the greens reasonable? their position in politics isn't really that clearly defined.

Surely you're joking? The greens position on a variety of issues (i.e. economic policy, social, foreign) is as clear as day.

Social progressivism is clearly their ideology. As to their position, while its naive to think they'll ever break the two party dominance, they are primarily there to hold the balance of power, keeping the right wing fuckwits in both parties in check.

 

[scuba_steve2121]

many people are just saying 'greens' coz there's no other reasonable option.

but are the greens reasonable? their position in politics isn't really that clearly defined.

yes it is go to their god dam website

 

[Existential]

Surely you're joking? The greens position on a variety of issues (i.e. economic policy, social, foreign) is as clear as day.

Social progressivism is clearly their ideology. As to their position, while its naive to think they'll ever break the two party dominance, they are primarily there to hold the balance of power, keeping the right wing fuckwits in both parties in check.

yes it is go to their god dam website

that's not exactly what i meant.

but i guess their position right now is as clear as the liberals - which, is 99% of the time, against the gov't.

the concept of bipartisanship is dead these days.

 

[Slidey]

while its naive to think they'll ever break the two party dominance

Counter-point: ACT Greens, Tasmanian Greens, and heck, even the Liberal Democrats in the UK.

And I'd also say holding balance of power is breaking the two party dominance.

 

[evatt]

Counter-point: ACT Greens, Tasmanian Greens, and heck, even the Liberal Democrats in the UK.

And I'd also say holding balance of power is breaking the two party dominance.

Good point.