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We all know Johnny loved his cricket.

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When it was politically appropriate anyway, he didn't have much to say about Shane Warne, Mark waugh and a certain bookmaker.
 

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Because there was nothing to say. Storm in a teacup. Giving pitch updates to bookmakers doth not a criminal make.
There is nothing to say about Muralitharan except he is an excellent bowler and terrible fielder.
 

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On a different note twas watching lateline last night and TJ said on numerous occaisions that the labor right had delivered Rudd the leadership...what? I've heard of revisionism but that is ridiculous. Beazley was the rights no1, the right wing of the ALP voted overwhelmingly in favour of Beazley, Rudd basically got the job by doing a three way deal with his own small support base, the left and the members of the right who particularly disliked Beazley (Crean, Fitz, etc)Rudd may have gotten the bulk of the NSW right on side which is substantial but it does not equate to the right delivering him leadership, of the forty or fifty something votes he got 30+ would have been from the Ferguson left, Socialist left or independant faction.
 

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Parliament is back for its final two week sitting before the long winter break.

The ETS will dominate, but the vote on the uni service fees will also feature.

ETS to fail. CSU to pass.

Earliest the ETS will be able to be used as a DD trigger is 5 December. (DD unlikely to happen now. At least not this year.)
 

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Costello is leaving parliament.

Took him long enough. If ever a man long outstayed his welcome.

Now Turnbull can actually stand a chance in making his leadership more secure. Unless the Coalition begin wanting a more experienced leader, and we can finally get the Ruddock/Tuckey leadership ticket we've all eagerly anticipated.
 

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Who do I remember saying that Costello was scheming to take over the Libs leadership?

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Lentern. ;)

P.S. Change your avatar!
Yes ofcourse I was the one and only person who believed Costello still sought the leadership, thats why centrebet had him the second most likely man to lead the liberal party to the next election. It seems too cynical even for me to believe Costello was just having a bit of fun, perhaps he crunched his numbers and realised he was never going to get the support he needed. It's mildly good news for Malcolm Turnbull and spectacular news for the ALP. Julie Bishop may also profit from the removal of Costello because she is now the only senior MP outside of Sydney. (ofcourse frontbench material will get elected to Kooyong and Higgins at the next election).

It distorts the pecking order for liberal leadership quite alot, Turnbull sadly finished himself off by coming to the leadership when he did, Joe is next in line and I suspect will jump the gun as well which I imagine would mean Abbott, Bishop or Pyne would succede Joe none of which are really leadership material. Perhaps Dutton will emerge as the "new generation" candidate but he is just as hopeless. Andrew Robb ain't gonna happen, I respect all of your intelligence to much to feel the need to explain that. So its hard to imagine who will be the next electable candidate they offer after Joe.

Lol at spiny comparing Tuckey and Ruddock, they have disliked each other ever since Howard moved the anti asian immigration bill about twenty years ago and Ruddock crossed the floor against it longevity is their only common ground.

Now in a cheap, tawdry deflection by highlighting another outrageous prediction by none other than the great Iron it would appear his holiness tips a Rees win at the next election.
Lol, saw that. What a nob. I feel that this split has blown any chance Barryhad at the next election and I assume that this was the aim.
Bitter right narrow-minded racist petty state liberal
Sorry Iron this is what you call blindly lobbing grenades.
 
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Yes ofcourse I was the one and only person who believed Costello still sought the leadership, thats why centrebet had him the second most likely man to lead the liberal party to the next election. It seems too cynical even for me to believe Costello was just having a bit of fun, perhaps he crunched his numbers and realised he was never going to get the support he needed. It's mildly good news for Malcolm Turnbull and spectacular news for the ALP. Julie Bishop may also profit from the removal of Costello because she is now the only senior MP outside of Sydney. (ofcourse frontbench material will get elected to Kooyong and Higgins at the next election).

It distorts the pecking order for liberal leadership quite alot, Turnbull sadly finished himself off by coming to the leadership when he did, Joe is next in line and I suspect will jump the gun as well which I imagine would mean Abbott, Bishop or Pyne would succede Joe none of which are really leadership material. Perhaps Dutton will emerge as the "new generation" candidate but he is just as hopeless. Andrew Robb ain't gonna happen, I respect all of your intelligence to much to feel the need to explain that. So its hard to imagine who will be the next electable candidate they offer after Joe.

Lol at spiny comparing Tuckey and Ruddock, they have disliked each other ever since Howard moved the anti asian immigration bill about twenty years ago and Ruddock crossed the floor against it longevity is their only common ground.

Now in a cheap, tawdry deflection by highlighting another outrageous prediction by none other than the great Iron it would appear his holiness tips a Rees win at the next election.

Sorry Iron this is what you call blindly lobbing grenades.
Lentern, glass half empty or half full?
 

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Now in a cheap, tawdry deflection by highlighting another outrageous prediction by none other than the great Iron it would appear his holiness tips a Rees win at the next election.

Sorry Iron this is what you call blindly lobbing grenades.
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This was pre-Rees, you dribbling :spzz::spzz::spzz::spzz:

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Costello made the right choice. He was needlessly damaging and, in my opinion, would have made a weak PM if voters accepted his spineless campaign at all.
It's a pity, bc it would have been fun to oppose him. His defenders would say that he was strategic and patient rather than gutless, but this act seals his record as a bit of a wanker.
Now go forth Herr Turnbull!
Punish Kevinnnnnnnnnn!
 

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That's odd. It doesn't add up (compared to last election's result and 2PP). The only way that is valid is if ALL the minor party gains since preference the Coalition to offset the Greens increase and Nationals' fall. Which seems very unlikely, yet Newspoll reckons otherwise.

Even assuming a surge in Family First, would they even preference the Coalition like that? Unless it's some LDP surge I'm not accounting for or something (unlikely).
 
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I also don't get it.

Rudd's just getting good at last, as far as I'm concerned, why would this then lead to a popularity drop like this? It's not as though the Coalition have listed their game, or the ALP having done something awful and contentious. The media's hostile, but no more so than they've been for the past few months.

Just weird.
 

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