Bach of Science Masters of Nursing uSYD (1 Viewer)

[katev3s]

Hey guys, wanted to know anyones experiences with this degree. I want to become a doctor, but I need a backup plan and this is my backup plan in order to attempt going into medicine. I understand they are two different career pathways, but this is a certain allied health career I would happily go into as well. If anyone has any past experiences, or knowledge please HMU or reply to this thread. Thanks.

 

[rh_06]

Hi,
I've also just graduated high school and was looking into alternate pathways into med (so we're in the same boat ) I did have the same idea of using B/Science and Nursing at USYD but I also found some other options you may want to consider:

Undergraduate med:
- UNSW 'LATERAL ENTRY SCHEME'
you may want to fact check me on the UNSW website, but as far as I know, this is the only way to get into undergraduate medicine without a 99+ atar or UCAT (the usual medicine entry requirements)
To be eligible as far as I know, you need to be doing the B/Medical Science degree at UNSW and within the first (or second year/semester? Im not 100% certain), you need to maintain a quite high GPA. From there, you will be eligible to APPLY for the scheme (doesnt guarantee you will get it, and I believe only like 10 people actually do get it from what i was told - again, i may be wrong). Then you'll need to take the UCAT and depending on that score, you may be able to enter into a UNSW undergrad medicine degree in thee second or third year.
The only downside of this pathway is that it's highly competitive, limited spots are available, requires you to take the UCAT later, and Medical science as a stand alone degree doesn't give you many opportunities later on (what I was told)

Postgraduate medicine:
I'll be brief.

Western Sydney Uni
I used to think WSU wasn't a good uni (it doesn't have much reputation because its new apparently) but their facilities and stuff for medicine and medical stuff is apparently quite good plus the atar requirement for some allied health courses are significantly lower.

Macquarie Uni
Maw uni offers both B/Medical science and B/Clinical science. Medical science at Maq is same as everywhere else, but Clinical science is like medical science, but it also has a built-in GAMSAT PREP COURSE. Basically, it prepares you for post-grad med which you do by taking the GAMSAT. Only downside would be that there arent many career opportunities should you fail or smth. And also the GAMSAT is significantly harder than the UCAT so...

Anyways, thats all I know for now. You may want to double check everything I said, but its somewhere along those lines. If you do decide to do the B/Medical science option, I would recommend you do it as a double degree like what I'm going to do. I've got EE into B/Law and Med sci in multiple unis so that sets me up for either law or a medicine pathway. If I cant get into medicine (like if I dont have a good UCAT or Gamsat) I can just do law, but if I am successful, I can do postgrad medicine with a law degree already completed.

Hope this somewhat helps, and if you find anything new, please lmk too

 

[v.tex]

What is the UNSW entry for medicine?

 

[katev3s]

Hi,
I've also just graduated high school and was looking into alternate pathways into med (so we're in the same boat ) I did have the same idea of using B/Science and Nursing at USYD but I also found some other options you may want to consider:

Undergraduate med:
- UNSW 'LATERAL ENTRY SCHEME'
you may want to fact check me on the UNSW website, but as far as I know, this is the only way to get into undergraduate medicine without a 99+ atar or UCAT (the usual medicine entry requirements)
To be eligible as far as I know, you need to be doing the B/Medical Science degree at UNSW and within the first (or second year/semester? Im not 100% certain), you need to maintain a quite high GPA. From there, you will be eligible to APPLY for the scheme (doesnt guarantee you will get it, and I believe only like 10 people actually do get it from what i was told - again, i may be wrong). Then you'll need to take the UCAT and depending on that score, you may be able to enter into a UNSW undergrad medicine degree in thee second or third year.
The only downside of this pathway is that it's highly competitive, limited spots are available, requires you to take the UCAT later, and Medical science as a stand alone degree doesn't give you many opportunities later on (what I was told)

Postgraduate medicine:
I'll be brief.

Western Sydney Uni
I used to think WSU wasn't a good uni (it doesn't have much reputation because its new apparently) but their facilities and stuff for medicine and medical stuff is apparently quite good plus the atar requirement for some allied health courses are significantly lower.

Macquarie Uni
Maw uni offers both B/Medical science and B/Clinical science. Medical science at Maq is same as everywhere else, but Clinical science is like medical science, but it also has a built-in GAMSAT PREP COURSE. Basically, it prepares you for post-grad med which you do by taking the GAMSAT. Only downside would be that there arent many career opportunities should you fail or smth. And also the GAMSAT is significantly harder than the UCAT so...

Anyways, thats all I know for now. You may want to double check everything I said, but its somewhere along those lines. If you do decide to do the B/Medical science option, I would recommend you do it as a double degree like what I'm going to do. I've got EE into B/Law and Med sci in multiple unis so that sets me up for either law or a medicine pathway. If I cant get into medicine (like if I dont have a good UCAT or Gamsat) I can just do law, but if I am successful, I can do postgrad medicine with a law degree already completed.

Hope this somewhat helps, and if you find anything new, please lmk too

Hi,
I've also just graduated high school and was looking into alternate pathways into med (so we're in the same boat ) I did have the same idea of using B/Science and Nursing at USYD but I also found some other options you may want to consider:

Undergraduate med:
- UNSW 'LATERAL ENTRY SCHEME'
you may want to fact check me on the UNSW website, but as far as I know, this is the only way to get into undergraduate medicine without a 99+ atar or UCAT (the usual medicine entry requirements)
To be eligible as far as I know, you need to be doing the B/Medical Science degree at UNSW and within the first (or second year/semester? Im not 100% certain), you need to maintain a quite high GPA. From there, you will be eligible to APPLY for the scheme (doesnt guarantee you will get it, and I believe only like 10 people actually do get it from what i was told - again, i may be wrong). Then you'll need to take the UCAT and depending on that score, you may be able to enter into a UNSW undergrad medicine degree in thee second or third year.
The only downside of this pathway is that it's highly competitive, limited spots are available, requires you to take the UCAT later, and Medical science as a stand alone degree doesn't give you many opportunities later on (what I was told)

Postgraduate medicine:
I'll be brief.

Western Sydney Uni
I used to think WSU wasn't a good uni (it doesn't have much reputation because its new apparently) but their facilities and stuff for medicine and medical stuff is apparently quite good plus the atar requirement for some allied health courses are significantly lower.

Macquarie Uni
Maw uni offers both B/Medical science and B/Clinical science. Medical science at Maq is same as everywhere else, but Clinical science is like medical science, but it also has a built-in GAMSAT PREP COURSE. Basically, it prepares you for post-grad med which you do by taking the GAMSAT. Only downside would be that there arent many career opportunities should you fail or smth. And also the GAMSAT is significantly harder than the UCAT so...

Anyways, thats all I know for now. You may want to double check everything I said, but its somewhere along those lines. If you do decide to do the B/Medical science option, I would recommend you do it as a double degree like what I'm going to do. I've got EE into B/Law and Med sci in multiple unis so that sets me up for either law or a medicine pathway. If I cant get into medicine (like if I dont have a good UCAT or Gamsat) I can just do law, but if I am successful, I can do postgrad medicine with a law degree already completed.

Hope this somewhat helps, and if you find anything new, please lmk too

Wow, thank you! I actually currently did Bachelor of Clinical Science at MQ but changed to Medical Science, but now might go into nursing. Here's my 10 cents:

1. the units were fun, it was just highly competitive + a lot of people want to go into medicine. Kind of just wanted to explore other options that may guarantee me a job, so I am considering nursing to MD
2. Clinical Science requires a high gpa, i did 5u last semester; terrible. Ended with a 66 wam. Barely salvageable. Hopefully this semester after results my WAM is 70+. With clinical science, i think it's only really good if u can afford the medical school at macquarie. I never knew that it wasnt HECS funded, so I backed away. it was already difficult enough to maintain a high GPA. Only 10 students are at least guaranteed a placement at Clinical science with high GPAs. The others have to either go to masters/postgrad or out of state for medical school. Personally, it was an appealing degree because it was 'premed' found out I should just attempt to have a better wam than a bad mental state + bad wam.
3. Moving to medical science was a bit better, enjoyed it, but I want to do something that will guarantee me a job. So I'm considering backing away, not 100% interested in post grad, maybe in the future. I am attempting to apply for nursing hopefully at USYD next year, it's completely different pathway but I think allied healthcare is just as rewarding.

Goodluck to you too for your future endeavors, hopefully I get into nursing somewhere... haha!

 

[katev3s]

What is the UNSW entry for medicine?

Pretty sure it's the medical science pathway, it's similar to clinical science but done a bit better. Just need to maintain a competitive enough GPA + gamsat I believe to get accepted into doctor of medicine. Otherwise a high competitive atar and UCAT

 

[gammahydroxybutyrate]

Hey guys, wanted to know anyones experiences with this degree. I want to become a doctor, but I need a backup plan and this is my backup plan in order to attempt going into medicine. I understand they are two different career pathways, but this is a certain allied health career I would happily go into as well. If anyone has any past experiences, or knowledge please HMU or reply to this thread. Thanks.

usyd science degree content depends on what you major in. a lot of the subjects in health sciences, particularly anything touching organic chemistry, get very difficult very fast.

science subjects usually split their assessments into a bunch of small garbage, so you usually get a ton of free marks for just doing quizzes and things like that, but assignments and exams are brutal in some subjects. depending on the subject, labs are usually 3 hours long and have a report due the following week, which is also filthy and time consuming to do properly. make sure you learn how to browse journals and resources efficiently and be prepared for disgusting and long research papers in later years. if you have a group project then start praying to the relevant deity and buckle up for a ride. if you just turn up to all the classes and pay attention, you can pretty easily get by while still having a life.

can't speak to nursing or post grad degrees, but i assume that's a concern for 3 years later if you don't transfer out.

 

[katev3s]

usyd science degree content depends on what you major in. a lot of the subjects in health sciences, particularly anything touching organic chemistry, get very difficult very fast.

science subjects usually split their assessments into a bunch of small garbage, so you usually get a ton of free marks for just doing quizzes and things like that, but assignments and exams are brutal in some subjects. depending on the subject, labs are usually 3 hours long and have a report due the following week, which is also filthy and time consuming to do properly. make sure you learn how to browse journals and resources efficiently and be prepared for disgusting and long research papers in later years. if you have a group project then start praying to the relevant deity and buckle up for a ride. if you just turn up to all the classes and pay attention, you can pretty easily get by while still having a life.

can't speak to nursing or post grad degrees, but i assume that's a concern for 3 years later if you don't transfer out.

If i'm being honest, I don't truly hate that idea. I've never done chemistry before until this year and I absolutely loved it! (Even though I basically bombed it) Same with physics too. Haha, was just considering nursing since I don't really want the uncertainty of not getting a job. Also I think nursing has it's aspect that appeals to me. My goal is still MD, but I am more than happy to enjoy a couple of years as a nurse. They are definitely different roles in many categories, which fascinates me more.

 

[rh_06]

Wow, thank you! I actually currently did Bachelor of Clinical Science at MQ but changed to Medical Science, but now might go into nursing. Here's my 10 cents:

1. the units were fun, it was just highly competitive + a lot of people want to go into medicine. Kind of just wanted to explore other options that may guarantee me a job, so I am considering nursing to MD
2. Clinical Science requires a high gpa, i did 5u last semester; terrible. Ended with a 66 wam. Barely salvageable. Hopefully this semester after results my WAM is 70+. With clinical science, i think it's only really good if u can afford the medical school at macquarie. I never knew that it wasnt HECS funded, so I backed away. it was already difficult enough to maintain a high GPA. Only 10 students are at least guaranteed a placement at Clinical science with high GPAs. The others have to either go to masters/postgrad or out of state for medical school. Personally, it was an appealing degree because it was 'premed' found out I should just attempt to have a better wam than a bad mental state + bad wam.
3. Moving to medical science was a bit better, enjoyed it, but I want to do something that will guarantee me a job. So I'm considering backing away, not 100% interested in post grad, maybe in the future. I am attempting to apply for nursing hopefully at USYD next year, it's completely different pathway but I think allied healthcare is just as rewarding.

Goodluck to you too for your future endeavors, hopefully I get into nursing somewhere... haha!

Hi! Sorry for the late response, but after some digging in the past week, I've also been interested in doing nursing as a pathway to MD (but I wouldn't mind a career as a nurse - specifically a trauma centre nurse so I can work in the operating theatres etc)
So far the USYD B/Science and M/Nursing double degree appeals to me, as well as the UTS B/Nursing (Im an undergrad student btw). I'll do some more research in the meantime that I can share with you. Glad to know that someone else is in a similar boat as me

 

[katev3s]

Hi! Sorry for the late response, but after some digging in the past week, I've also been interested in doing nursing as a pathway to MD (but I wouldn't mind a career as a nurse - specifically a trauma centre nurse so I can work in the operating theatres etc)
So far the USYD B/Science and M/Nursing double degree appeals to me, as well as the UTS B/Nursing (Im an undergrad student btw). I'll do some more research in the meantime that I can share with you. Glad to know that someone else is in a similar boat as me

Hey! This is super late, havent been online for a while. But I just recieved an offer to study MS at USYD! I am now waiting for the second round to go into nursing hopefully to see which one is best for someone like me. I am unsure where I want to go yet. I am also interested in diagnostic radiology hence why I decided to put MS as my first preference. I am in an awful predicament of where I want to go haha... Hopefully you've got a clue. Goodluck

 

[rh_06]

Hey! This is super late, havent been online for a while. But I just recieved an offer to study MS at USYD! I am now waiting for the second round to go into nursing hopefully to see which one is best for someone like me. I am unsure where I want to go yet. I am also interested in diagnostic radiology hence why I decided to put MS as my first preference. I am in an awful predicament of where I want to go haha... Hopefully you've got a clue. Goodluck

Hi lol. I js opened bos after my uac offer. I also got a USYD offer into B/Science & B/Advanced Studies (Medical Science) ~ (I decided not to pursue nursing as a pathway mostly because my atar was higher than I thought and this seems more direct into med)
Sounds like you have everything mostly under control so good luck!
If your still interested in going to med etc I'll be happy to share some of my findings

 

[katev3s]

Hi lol. I js opened bos after my uac offer. I also got a USYD offer into B/Science & B/Advanced Studies (Medical Science) ~ (I decided not to pursue nursing as a pathway mostly because my atar was higher than I thought and this seems more direct into med)
Sounds like you have everything mostly under control so good luck!
If your still interested in going to med etc I'll be happy to share some of my findings

That's quite interesting, well I wish you the best to your future endeavors. I am still indeed interested in medicine and would really appreciate for you to share your findings with me. I am transferring universities to hopefully start on a clean slate, and perform much better than I did previously. I would also love to hear any of your potential back-up plans in case medicine does not end up being your final career standing. I am doing medical science because ultimately, I am open to most medical-sector jobs. Hopefully radiology. I just want to expand my options for now. However, MD is hopefully the end goal. But for now, I am just going to focus on what I can control. Best wishes, and congratulations for your HSC and UAC offers!