Blind Pakistani boy killed by teacher for not learning Koran (1 Viewer)

[dragon10]

Overall i think that to be an Extremist of ANY RELIGION is a very bad thing. Things are taken too literally or misinterpreted and therefore they take the fate and lives of others into their own hands. Personally i believe they see themselves as one of the only ones that can understand what god is saying, (like a messenger) and when this happens normally things turn out badly....

I agree Jonnois. Extrapolating this a bit from the story, it's ignorant to say look at the high death rate at the hand of Islam, it's not just the religion that causes these deaths. I'm not justifying that acts of terrorists, but they're not mindless acts to the people who decide to become suicide bombers etc. Look at the state of Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan. Can any of you honestly say that if you were living there now with all the violence and death around you, you would have much faith in humanity either, or America, to be more exact, they're always trying to save us from ourselves.

The age old question is how do we live with each other?

I am in full agreement that the teacher should be punished, but not a whole religion ostricised for one idiot's act. Regarding the Islamic school in Camden though, one of the residents said they would like to "preserve western values and traditions" or some such thing. Quoting from my English teacher, "What values are they? Commercialism?"

That's my two cents.

 

[TacoTerrorist]

I hate minorities. I hate brown people and religion.

/ari89

 

[sam04u]

Its a zionist conspiracy the jews are in our governments and in our media making up these stories to make islam look bad. The zionist order of governments did 9/11 and this story is more of their propaganda
/sam04u

It's funny this is reported, yet mysteriously we hear nothing about the great child of Holocaust survivors, Norman Finkelstein's mistreatment in Israel, supposedly a state for Jews such as himself.

He was banned for a year and interrogated for several hours because of his support of the Palestinians in the Gaza concentration camp.

And next this fool comes to us INDIGNANT about something that happens in Pakistan under the American controlled Pakistani government? Pakistan was thrown into shambles thanks to the funding of military junta after military junta by the American oligarchy. So intertwined is the American ruling class that OBAMA a BLACK man was shown to have a shared ancestry with right winged, red necked McCain! SAY IT ISN'T SO!

The progressive, real, muslims in Pakistan are probably being tortured in jail houses, and you want to call this Islamic? Fuck off. This has nothing to do with Islam, these barbarians are tarring the name of Islam, and you love it. All for mother Israel eh? That son of a bitch Israel that was created for the Jews, yet has done nothing but make their lives more miserable.

It is a conspiracy. And whether you know it or not, you're apart of it. Better mother fucking ask somebody.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

I hate minorities. I hate brown people and religion.

/ari89

Ari is a brown person

 

[Omium]

Ari finally lost his mind.

 

[sam04u]

If only he was provided with audio tapes of the Koran.

:angry: You don't know how angry this makes me.
The only way to solve this problem is for the US to stop funding special interest groups in Pakistan. Let them elect an uncorrupt, government (no more military dictatoriships) and then they'll have a good, accountable government, which isn't rife with corruption.

Because as we've seen time and time again. Those sorts of countries breed hatred, extremism, violence and oppresion.

This isn't an Islamic thing though, that's what I hate about these news stories which always seem to be about the same topic. It's an idea targetted to paint Islam as an extreme and violent religion, and people like myself feel it in the real world. Moreso, how the fuck do people even know what religion I am? I feel sorry for the plethora of Christian Lebanese in Australia, I suppose the cross they wear around their necks will have to serve as their identification. But then, I guess that excludes the atheistic/agnostic Arabs, they're still sand niggers.

Again, I'm not supporting, condoning, or even apologising for what happened in that school. I hate it vehemently.

 

[JonnoisBored]

As time goes on, hopefully less and less of this will occur. Its the Individuals ethics and morality that govern this kind of violence, and many complications might be involved, such as lack of education (ironic), certain stresses teacher was experiencing at the time or had a rough time growing up (family problems) and so on, that the media dont delve deeper into.

 

[JaredR]

This isn't an Islamic thing though

I would disagree. My understanding is that it comes from an ultra-religious Muslim's perception on the nescessity to learn the Qu'uran?

Indeed this occurs with other ultra-religious sects but not as dramatic perhaps given that other ultra-religious sects exist within more lawful and western socities.

Again, I'm not supporting, condoning, or even apologising for what happened in that school. I hate it vehemently.

A nice gesture which needs to come from the leaders of your faith. You are simply an individual adherent who cannot speak for your entire faith.

Similarly a Christian can apologise for the wrongdoings of certain priests and ministers, but that does not nearly have the culpability of a leader of a Christian Church doing the same thing.

 

[sam04u]

As time goes on, hopefully less and less of this will occur. Its the Individuals ethics and morality that govern this kind of violence, and many complications might be involved, such as lack of education (ironic), certain stresses teacher was experiencing at the time or had a rough time growing up (family problems) and so on, that the media dont delve deeper into.

The real problem is Pakistan has no real social structure. It's basically a country of clerics ruled by clerics, where nobody has respect for the authority, because of what it represents (The U.S and corruption) that the moral compass is distorted to an extent that right becomes wrong.

To say that in a regular, functioning, unimpeded country with real muslims this would happen is conjecture at best. This is not islamic ideology. Killing blind people for not being able to do what their disability has prevented them is wrong. Blind people should be looked onto with humility, a sort of fortune to have something others have been denied, a sort of deep-rooted respect and sympathy to the unfortunate.

Not outright hatred and discrimination. My summary on this in one word would be "haram". This is haram.

 

[ari89]

Ari finally lost his mind.

Yet I still hit the nail straight on the head ^_^
Secular prophet if I ever saw one

 

[ari89]

I hate minorities. I hate brown people and religion.

/ari89

haha yeah Ari (ארי) is a white supremacist name
Edit: tbh I probably love religion more than anyone else on this forum...you should see my personal library

 

[MaNiElla]

It's Israels fault Palestine is innocent

/maniella

Yep! :uhhuh:
95% of the time.

 

[MaNiElla]

In response to the thread's original topic, I feel so sorry for the kid, i hope that the teacher burns in hell for it

 

[sunny22]

It's funny this is reported, yet mysteriously we hear nothing about the great child of Holocaust survivors, Norman Finkelstein's mistreatment in Israel, supposedly a state for Jews such as himself.

He was banned for a year and interrogated for several hours because of his support of the Palestinians in the Gaza concentration camp.

And next this fool comes to us INDIGNANT about something that happens in Pakistan under the American controlled Pakistani government? Pakistan was thrown into shambles thanks to the funding of military junta after military junta by the American oligarchy. So intertwined is the American ruling class that OBAMA a BLACK man was shown to have a shared ancestry with right winged, red necked McCain! SAY IT ISN'T SO!

The progressive, real, muslims in Pakistan are probably being tortured in jail houses, and you want to call this Islamic? Fuck off. This has nothing to do with Islam, these barbarians are tarring the name of Islam, and you love it. All for mother Israel eh? That son of a bitch Israel that was created for the Jews, yet has done nothing but make their lives more miserable.

It is a conspiracy. And whether you know it or not, you're apart of it. Better mother fucking ask somebody.

omgg!! finally someone else who can effin see the world for what it is n not what people want u to think it is!!
i hate all racist people who judge and make opinions without actually looking at the big picture!
samo4u man i take ma hat off to u!

 

[Twickel]

Islam, what did you expect. Stupid religion.

 

[sunny22]

Islam, what did you expect. Stupid religion.

and what exactly would you, and do you no about islam?
from what u just said obviously nothing, do not sit there and judge a religion purely based on the actions of this man, and also by what the media is telling you to believe, what happen to that poor boy is completely unforgivable and the man who commited it deserves everything that comes to him, how ever judging and commenting this mans actions based on what he believes in is completely rong.. thats like for example..
a christian man beat his wife to death bcoz she refused to go with him to church on sunday.....
if this happened and was in the media hating all christians and disrespecting there religion would be and is completely uncalled for.. people would say well he did it for religion..who really gives an eff why he did it , the fact is he did it and its rong, and jus bcoz he pulled the i did it for religion card doesnt make the religion bad, nor does it make every1 from that faith bad..

i say learn about things b4 u decide to judge them..

 

[Captain Gh3y]

and what exactly would you, and do you no about islam?
from what u just said obviously nothing, do not sit there and judge a religion purely based on the actions of this man, and also by what the media is telling you to believe,

agreed

what the guy did pales in comparison to the evil in the Koran

 

[sam04u]

agreed

what the guy did pales in comparison to the evil in the Koran

Have you read the Qur'an?
There's actually quite a bit in there that regardless of what religion or creed you're from you can appreciate. You don't have to read the Qur'an as if it's a revelation from God to appreciate it's beauty.

Honestly, read a little of it. Read it critically, make notes to criticise things you disagree with or want to point out later.

Really, 1.5 billion or so people swear by this book. I mean that's got to say something about it, atleast that it's worth reading once in your lifetime (shouldn't take more than a few days to get through for a good reader.)

http://www.al-islam.org/Quran/

Let's just say the Qur'an has had mixed reviews. The Author? Some speculate it was God, but check it out for yourself.

 

[sunny22]

agreed

what the guy did pales in comparison to the evil in the Koran

so you i see are as ignorant as the other person..if u new anything about anythin ud no what u jus said is a false statment, and im correcting it.. islam is peaceful..the sooner people like u learn this fact the sooner this world can hav a higher level of peace in it..
seriously what do you gain by making such accusations..if u want to comment on this i suggest u get ur facts straight and actually no what ur talking about first

 

[Slidey]

Sunny, where is the peace in the Middle East?

Islam isn't a peaceful religion - it tells adherents to kill those who do not convert, oppresses women and puts to death homosexuals.

Now, if you're trying to say that not all Muslims adhere to those bits of it, then yeah, you're right. But unfortunately, many also DO adhere to those bits. Therein lies the problem.