Hello all,
Can a qualified medical doctor work as a nurse without obtaining a Bachelor of Nursing? Can they become a registered nurse without further study? Similarly, can a qualified MD work as a physiotherapist without completing extra formal education and training?
Thank you.
Regards,
James
James is a male name?
Wishful thinking; or no, absolutely not. It is either stipulated or implied in the legislation that in order for a nurse to work, he/she/it needs to be registered, which, in turn, requires a valid diploma or degree in nursing.
The job descriptions and vocations of a medical officer and a nurse are very, very distinct, as are the educations. Maybe nurses do tend to patients for greater percentage of time, but seldom will you have a doctor wash patients or the like. Furthermore, any blurring between the distinctions of the jobs is legally inadvisable; (e.g., as far as one is concerned, even if you have a medical degree, are a qualified doctor who's rego'd, if you work as a nurse, you're a nurse.)
Physiotherapists cannot become doctors without medical school, and doctors cannot become physiotherapists without further studies in physiotherapy.
I think an MD would probably still need to get some extra education, because although we take similar A&P classes, med students focus a lot more on disease processes and nurses focus a lot on patient care, communication, emotions, etc.
Similar A&P classes; lol, no.
And, yeah, you'd think an "MD" would probably need some extra education.
I haven't been to nursing school, but you've been to both?? How admirable.
But, if they applied for a BN they would have all the science subjects credited so there would only be about 5 subjects left for them to complete
I imagine someone who undertook medicine, passed their exams, and transferred/graduated, then re-applied for nursing could probably get some exemptions.
Totally, definitely doesn't work the other way around, though.
Anatomy and Physiology. Basically learn about the body a system at a time, including anatomy, physiology, microbiology, pharmacology, pathophysiology. That's the lectures.
Depends where you go.
In the tutes you basically get given a pt case study and you apply what you've learnt in the lecture to the case study to come up with a diagnosis, treatment, what the risk factors were, etc.
Wait, what is this? Med, dent, or nursing?
If for non-med, non-dent, well, holy shit.
I think it would be similar with going from MD to physio. I mean, they know all the bones, muscles and ligaments - but I would imagine that physios would know them in crazy detail and how to manipulate one to get a particular result...I'm not sure if stuff like that ever come up in the medicine ciricculum (maybe ortho?)...
LLLOL NAW.
This.
Actually, I read this article a while back and i can't seem to find it now but it stated that specialist physiotherapists have greater knowledge on the muskuloskeletal system than general practioner doctors, and that physio's knowledge on the musko system alone is on par with that of orthapedic specialists.
Well, of course.
Obviously, they do not have the knowledge on how to perform surgery lol.
Maybe they do; it's just they cannot perform it without a valid medical degree, accreditation from and registration with a college and board.
Still, it's not like you can really perform a surgery anytime soon after graduating from med school, ANYWAY.
Similiarly, general physios have greater expertise on diagnoses of diseases than gp's so i doubt an MD can become a physio without extra training.
No.
Apples and oranges. GP's and other medical professionals are trained in medicine, should be able to/can handle more than the musculoskeletal system, can prescribe.
Physios are allied health (exercise science, health science) providers, and do whatever they do. AFAIK, physios do not diagnose or offer primary healthcare; instead, they are beings that are educated and specialised such to offer secondary care - help the patient, help the doctor(s).
Perhaps the closest specialisations to physiotherapy for med graduates, post PG1 (and PG2, in NSW), are sports medicine and orthopedics.
Its kind of like an MD wanting become a dentist. Different knowledge and training altogether.
Lol, no.
Considering that most Australian (medical and dental) schools with both (graduate-entry) medicine and dentistry hold the same lectures for both medicine and dentistry, you
can claim a couple of credit points for the second degree, assuming you pass with flying colours the first time around. The credit point claim process does involve approaching both deans of their respective faculties.
Quit using "MD", you - what, 911-dialling, non-hyphenating, funny-spelling - freaks, ... unless that's shorthand for medical doctor. MD is a degree, and people are defined by degrees.
Only, like, Melbourne Uni is gonna start conferring this degree in Australia.