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Depolarisation must reach a threshold (minimum stimulus required to generate respnse in the nerve cell) which is at least 50 mV more than the resting potential of - 70 mv. No Action potential if depolarisation is below this level. Therefore not all stimuli produce an action potential.

Are you sure it's 50? My teacher said it's +15mV.

I basically wrote the same - threshold, resting stage, minimum stimulus of 15mV otherwise no action potention..etcetc.

I thought it was a pretty fair Communication section. I'm just mad I spent all week learning about Rhodopsin! Grr.
 

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oh thank god someone else put 15.. i was sitting here freaking out quietle, feeeling v. ashamed that i had managed to confuse a 15 and a 50... only ting... which the hell one is rite???
 

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oh thank god someone else put 15.. i was sitting here freaking out quietle, feeeling v. ashamed that i had managed to confuse a 15 and a 50... only ting... which the hell one is rite???
According to my exercise book and notes, it's 15. But I don't know for sure because I handed in my Communication book! *is now nervous*
 

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snickerdoodle said:
According to my exercise book and notes, it's 15. But I don't know for sure because I handed in my Communication book! *is now nervous*
I'm sorry but it's 15 mV more than the resting potential .

that was a typo
 

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Depolarisation must reach a threshold (minimum stimulus required to generate respnse in the nerve cell) which is at least 50 mV more than the resting potential of - 70 mv. No Action potential if depolarisation is below this level. Therefore not all stimuli produce an action potential.
Yeah i had a similar answer to that but yes i think u mean a stimulus of at least 15milliVolts from the resting potential of -70mV to create an action potential ;). That question ruled, i even managed to draw up a nice graph showing the action potential :D
 

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well i hate the communication topic but was going ok until i got to part d! i didnt study action potentials and neurones so that sucked! the other questions were ok tho so hopefully i did well in them!
 

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Bokky said:
Yeah i had a similar answer to that but yes i think u mean a stimulus of at least 15milliVolts from the resting potential of -70mV to create an action potential ;). That question ruled, i even managed to draw up a nice graph showing the action potential :D
Yup do you have to draw the action-potential graph as well?
 

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well the question didnt ask u to but i decided to tho just to show the marker that i understand how the action potential works. So hopefully i can get some benefit from that.
 

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well the question didnt ask u to but i decided to tho just to show the marker that i understand how the action potential works. So hopefully i can get some benefit from that.
Yeah I guess that's a good thing. Showing the marker that you know more.


which question was the hardest one?
 

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to me the hardest one was the "assess the use of micrographs for structure of neurones" . I didnt know exactly what to write about there so i guess i lost a bit of marks there.
 

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to me the hardest one was the "assess the use of micrographs for structure of neurones" . I didnt know exactly what to write about there so i guess i lost a bit of marks there.

Yeah I guess I lost a few marks on that question too.

Hey how about the colour blindness question? .
 

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umm, i stated that Jack has a 50% chance of being colour blind if Maria (his mum) was a carrier of the colour blind condition. Coz i think Maria couldve been XCXc or XCXC (C being normal vision and c being recessive colour blind gene). And her husband, i forgot his name, is unaffected meaning that he is XCY. Did others say this as well?
 

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Bokky said:
umm, i stated that Jack has a 50% chance of being colour blind if Maria (his mum) was a carrier of the colour blind condition. Coz i think Maria couldve been XCXc or XCXC (C being normal vision and c being recessive colour blind gene). And her husband, i forgot his name, is unaffected meaning that he is XCY. Did others say this as well?

yep i pretty much got that, cos she's got 50% chance of being a carrier, depending on what she got from her mum.

that neurone question killed me.. what was the right answer? hopefully that's the only one i lost marks on though...
 

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Bokky said:
umm, i stated that Jack has a 50% chance of being colour blind if Maria (his mum) was a carrier of the colour blind condition. Coz i think Maria couldve been XCXc or XCXC (C being normal vision and c being recessive colour blind gene). And her husband, i forgot his name, is unaffected meaning that he is XCY. Did others say this as well?

Others mostly got 25%
 

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Others mostly got 25%
Oh yeah, thats because they counted every possible offspring including females, so 1 in 4 chance of being colour blind. But i think it's also correct to say 50% chance (or 1 in 2) only counting the males in the possible offspring. So yeah, i think u could be right either way ;)
 

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Oh yeah, thats because they counted every possible offspring including females, so 1 in 4 chance of being colour blind. But i think it's also correct to say 50% chance (or 1 in 2) only counting the males in the possible offspring. So yeah, i think u could be right either way ;)
Yup. Looks like you're gonna get high 90s ^^
 

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lol i hope so, i mean the exam wasnt all that hard and i tried most questions my hardest. Id predict my mark to be around the low 80s, possibly high 80s, id be very happy with that. I wouldnt even mind high 70s either.

OMG stupid multiple choice question on smoking. i got that one wrong *CRIES!!!* i said viral disease, wat was i thinking. I thought viral meant like internal disease (as in lung disease), but the answer is environmental disease. argh i screwed that one up, ah well, time to move on.
 
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Bokky said:
lol i hope so, i mean the exam wasnt all that hard and i tried most questions my hardest. Id predict my mark to be around the low 80s, possibly high 80s, id be very happy with that. I wouldnt even mind high 70s either.

OMG stupid multiple choice question on smoking. i got that one wrong *CRIES!!!* i said viral disease, wat was i thinking. I thought viral meant like internal disease (as in lung disease), but the answer is environmental disease. argh i screwed that one up, ah well, time to move on
Hey how do you measure the size of the red blood cells and W.B.C in question 13?
 

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theres a prac/experiment u do in ur biology course to estimate the size of red blood cells. Red blood cells are approx. 7 micro-meteres not nm (nanometres).
 

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Bokky said:
theres a prac/experiment u do in ur biology course to estimate the size of red blood cells. Red blood cells are approx. 7 micro-meteres not nm (nanometres).

That means I lost 3 marks in the MC.

Dissapointing...
 

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