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prove that 55^62-13^62-13^62+41^62 is divisibile by 13
 

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Is this question supposed to read:

5562 – 1362 – 1362 + 4162

???
 

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i dont think its 2unit unless its really really simple and i'm just missing it
cud u take out the 13's so its 5562 + 4162 still cant do anything though
 
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Timothy.Siu said:
i dont think its 2unit unless its really really simple and i'm just missing it
cud u take out the 13's so its 5562 + 4162 still cant do anything though
its part of the cubic identites portion of 2 unit
 

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lyounamu said:
(55^31-13^31)(55^31+13^31) + (41^31-13^31)(41^31+13^31)
= 55^31(55^31+13^31) - 13^31(55^31+13^31) + 41^31(41^31+13^31) - 13^31(41^31+13^31)
= 55^31(55^31+13^31) + 13^31(-13^31-55^31 + 41^31 + 13^31) + 41^31(41^31 + 13^31)
= 55^31(55^31+13^31) + 13^31(41^31-55^31) + 41^31(41^31+13^31)
= 2. 55^31 + 55^31 . 13^31 + 13^31 . 41^31 - 13^31 . 55^31 + 2 . 41^31 + 41^31 . 13^31
= 2 . 55^31 + 2. 41^31 + 2. 13^31 . 41^31
= 2 (55^31 + 41^31 + 13^31 . 41^31)
= 2 (55^31 + 41^31(1+13^31))
= ???

Let me try different method, cubic method for example.
LOL that seemedlike a lot of work
but from memory in 2unit we haven't had to prove divisibility
 

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Timothy.Siu said:
LOL that seemedlike a lot of work
but from memory in 2unit we haven't had to prove divisibility
That didn't really work in the end. I am thinking of a different way...
 

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ctpengage said:
prove that 55^62-13^62-13^62+41^62 is divisibile by 13
There we go:

55^62-13^62-13^62+41^62 = n(55^62-13^62-13^62 +41^62)/n

Let n=k

k(55^62-13^62-13^62+41^62)/k = 13m

Now prove n=k+1
(k+1)(55^62-13^62-13^62 +41^62)/(k+1) = 13t
L.H.S. = k(k+1)(55^62-13^62-13^62+41^62)/(k+1)k = k(55^62-13^62-13^62+41^62)/k = 13m

I am goin' around a circle, and I used 3 Unit-method. This is the only way I could think of to get this somewhere.
 
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just considering the 5562 + 4162 part, since the 1362 are obviously divisible by 13;

(52+3)62 + (39+2)62 (52 and 39 are multiples of 13)
= (5262 + 62*5261*3 +(other terms that are multiples of 52) ...+ 362] + (3962 + (other terms that are multiples of 39) + 262)

so now we need to only worry about the 362 + 262 since everything else is divisible by 13
362 + 262
= 931 + 431
now, using the sum of odd powers rule;
= (9+4)(930 - 929*4 + 928*42 - ... + 430)
= 13(930 - 929*4 + 928*42 - ... + 430)
so 5562 - 1362 - 1362 + 4162 must be divisible by 13 since all the parts we broke it into are
 

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lolokay said:
just considering the 5562 + 4162 part, since the 1362 are obviously divisible by 13;

(52+3)62 + (39+2)62 (52 and 39 are multiples of 13)
= (5262 + 62*5261*3 +(other terms that are multiples of 52) ...+ 362] + (3962 + (other terms that are multiples of 39) + 262)

so now we need to only worry about the 362 + 262 since everything else is divisible by 13
362 + 262
= 931 + 431
now, using the sum of odd powers rule;
= (9+4)(930 - 929*4 + 928*42 - ... + 430)
= 13(930 - 929*4 + 928*42 - ... + 430)
so 5562 - 1362 - 1362 + 4162 must be divisible by 13 since all the parts we broke it into are

What the hell is the sum of the odd power's rule?
 

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do you know the factorising difference of 2 powers rule?
xn - yn = (x-y)(xn-1 + xn-2y + xn-3y2 +...+yn) ?
well it's like that (I don't know if either of these are actually taught)
it's
xn + yn = (x+y)(xn-1 - xn-2y + xn-3y2 -...+yn)
eg sum of 2 cubes which you would know
x3 + y3 = (x+y)(x2 - xy + y2)
 

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lolokay said:
do you know the factorising difference of 2 powers rule?
xn - yn = (x-y)(xn-1 + xn-2y + xn-3y2 +...+yn) ?
well it's like that (I don't know if either of these are actually taught)
it's
xn + yn = (x+y)(xn-1 - xn-2y + xn-3y2 -...+yn)
eg sum of 2 cubes which you would know
x3 + y3 = (x+y)(x2 - xy + y2)
ok, that's really interesting to know. thanks
 

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