Does God exist? (9 Viewers)

[katie tully]

no actually it makes sense...i dont believe it exists but i also dont believe in 95% of "gods" values...

Pretty retarded rhetoric. There are plenty of values in the Bible that we refer to and abide by every day, without even realising it. If you take away the fact that it's not the word of God, and if you remove the bits about Jesus and stuff, you just have a volume of morality tails written by some dudes a long time ago.

 

[boris]

Srs?

 

[Crestwood's_G]

Pretty retarded rhetoric. There are plenty of values in the Bible that we refer to and abide by every day, without even realising it. If you take away the fact that it's not the word of God, and if you remove the bits about Jesus and stuff, you just have a volume of morality tails written by some dudes a long time ago.

yeah morals i learnt being a human...humans just are good...

 

[katie tully]

yeah morals i learnt being a human...humans just are good...

What?

 

[hsb39]

Pretty retarded rhetoric. There are plenty of values in the Bible that we refer to and abide by every day, without even realising it. If you take away the fact that it's not the word of God, and if you remove the bits about Jesus and stuff, you just have a volume of morality tails written by some dudes a long time ago.

That can be used on the homophobic stuff. There are six verses, 3 in OT, which were alongside other ridiculous claims, and 3 said by Paul, where the same thing applies.

 

[katie tully]

That can be used on the homophobic stuff. There are six verses, 3 in OT, which were alongside other ridiculous claims, and 3 said by Paul, where the same thing applies.

Pretty sure it doesn't account for 95% of the Bible, dude.

 

[hsb39]

yeah morals i learnt being a human...humans just are good...

You might start a huge argument with "humans are good", I don't know where I stand, but I know that Chinese metaphorical reasoning (comparing humans to something else in order to prove a point, i.e. bullshit) is involved.

 

[hsb39]

Pretty sure it doesn't account for 95% of the Bible, dude.

? I'm just saying that it can be used against the (very minimal) homophobic sections of the Bible. I'm not involving 95%.

 

[sthcross.dude]

my favourite bible verse is:

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

 

[katie tully]

I'm confused by what you mean.

He was saying he didn't believe in 95% of God's values. I'm saying for the most part, theyre just every day values humans accept and live by subconsciously, and if you take away the fact that it was written to fulfill a religious agenda, it's really not that special or far out.

 

[hsb39]

my favourite bible verse is:

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

And people say that God doesn't change over the Testaments.

 

[hsb39]

I'm confused by what you mean.

He was saying he didn't believe in 95% of God's values. I'm saying for the most part, theyre just every day values humans accept and live by subconsciously, and if you take away the fact that it was written to fulfill a religious agenda, it's really not that special or far out.

I was just segueing onto another point, because homophobic Christians piss me off.

 

[Crestwood's_G]

What?

i am good not because of the bible...the morals that i have that are similar to the bible are just because i am human...humans share certain morals just because we are humans and our brains are smart enough to think "that is wrong"...

 

[boris]

yeah serious ( i guess that is what you meant?

Shut the fuck up retard

 

[katie tully]

i am good not because of the bible...the morals that i have that are similar to the bible are just because i am human...humans share certain morals just because we are humans and our brains are smart enough to think "that is wrong"...

Yeah der, that was my point you clown.

I said if you remove the religious aspect of it, and look at it purely as a book of morality, then really you don't disagree with 95% of what is in there, because 95% of it is pretty okay. And regardless of whether we've read it, we abide by most of the stuff in there, even if we don't realise it.

 

[katie tully]

I was just segueing onto another point, because homophobic Christians piss me off.

OIC.

 

[hsb39]

i am good not because of the bible...the morals that i have that are similar to the bible are just because i am human...humans share certain morals just because we are humans and our brains are smart enough to think "that is wrong"...

Yet again, saying that humans are inherently good will bring arguments from Mencius and Xunzi, with metaphorical reasoning.

But yeah, I think that humans can use logic to find their own morals.

 

[Crestwood's_G]

Yeah der, that was my point you clown.

I said if you remove the religious aspect of it, and look at it purely as a book of morality, then really you don't disagree with 95% of what is in there, because 95% of it is pretty okay. And regardless of whether we've read it, we abide by most of the stuff in there, even if we don't realise it.

ok i overexagerated what i meant was...i dont need a bible to tell me how to be a good human...

but morals such as anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-fun just piss me off

 

[hsb39]

ok i overexagerated what i meant was...i dont need a bible to tell me how to be a good human...

but morals such as anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-fun just piss me off

I never understood anti-fun.

 

[Crestwood's_G]

I never understood anti-fun.

you mean you dont understand what i mean? or what the bible means?