English standard vs Advanced? (1 Viewer)

[yonezwxu]

Hi guys, I am currently in year 10 and i need some advice on picking between english standard or advanced as im really torn in between right now. I would say Im not a terrible english student but I am not excelling either, I've asked my teachers and tutors and they all have different recs so im quite indecisive. I got 15/20 in my recent exam and have to pick out my hsc subjects soon and my teacher says im exactly in the middle of standard and advanced. I know advanced has the better cohort, scaling, teachers and generally better learning environment (im worried that ill start slacking off in standard) but im worried that i wont do well enough and really struggle through it and end up not getting the scaling benefit at the end which would be really upsetting. So im tempted to do standard for the easier course and less workload as i am planning some content heavy courses and wanting to do ext 2 maths but am unsure about the probability of me getting into the course. I would say i have a goodish chance as i am borderline top 25 in the cohort and i want to focus on maths so im not so sure. I know the standard cohort is relatively weak considering my school isn't doing great currently in terms of rankings and i would say the advanced cohort is better. I've seen a lot of people saying how there isn't much of a difference in terms of effort but a big difference in terms of workload and difficulty and how the advanced course tests your fluidity of language/writing which im not exceptionally great at? Right now i am looking for tutoring places and am trying to improve my writing but it's an difficult process. I am planning on taking maths adv, maths ext1, bio, chem, economics & textiles next year and want to get a high atar, currently aiming for 96+ so I would really appreciate any advice I can get at the moment.

 

[wollongong warrior]

Standard english isn't easily nor does it have a smaller work load
The syllabus is almost a carbon copy of advanced, it just does more films than texts
So I recommend advanced english since it doesn't cap your atar like standard does lol

 

[yonezwxu]

Standard english isn't easily nor does it have a smaller work load
The syllabus is almost a carbon copy of advanced, it just does more films than texts
So I recommend advanced english since it doesn't cap your atar like standard does lol

I heard that getting a band 6 in standard is pretty much impossible so im tempted to just try advanced and all my teachers make the literature analysing part and writing fluidity for advanced challenging and like strenuous which idk if its true but ty for the help anyways

 

[wollongong warrior]

I heard that getting a band 6 in standard is pretty much impossible so im tempted to just try advanced and all my teachers make the literature analysing part and writing fluidity for advanced challenging and like strenuous which idk if its true but ty for the help anyways

Definitely not impossible, it's the same difficulty as advanced but you won't be rewarded as much

 

[spiderfan44]

Hi guys, I am currently in year 10 and i need some advice on picking between english standard or advanced as im really torn in between right now. I would say Im not a terrible english student but I am not excelling either, I've asked my teachers and tutors and they all have different recs so im quite indecisive. I got 15/20 in my recent exam and have to pick out my hsc subjects soon and my teacher says im exactly in the middle of standard and advanced. I know advanced has the better cohort, scaling, teachers and generally better learning environment (im worried that ill start slacking off in standard) but im worried that i wont do well enough and really struggle through it and end up not getting the scaling benefit at the end which would be really upsetting. So im tempted to do standard for the easier course and less workload as i am planning some content heavy courses and wanting to do ext 2 maths but am unsure about the probability of me getting into the course. I would say i have a goodish chance as i am borderline top 25 in the cohort and i want to focus on maths so im not so sure. I know the standard cohort is relatively weak considering my school isn't doing great currently in terms of rankings and i would say the advanced cohort is better. I've seen a lot of people saying how there isn't much of a difference in terms of effort but a big difference in terms of workload and difficulty and how the advanced course tests your fluidity of language/writing which im not exceptionally great at? Right now i am looking for tutoring places and am trying to improve my writing but it's an difficult process. I am planning on taking maths adv, maths ext1, bio, chem, economics & textiles next year and want to get a high atar, currently aiming for 96+ so I would really appreciate any advice I can get at the moment.

i think most schools give u the option to drop down from advanced to standard. if ur school allows u to drop down, i think it would be a good idea to try advanced for a term or so just to see if you like it. standard does scale worse than adv, but its also worth considering that if u cant handle the workload of adv that ur mark may end up worse than if you were to do standard.

 

[amatterra]

Hi guys, I am currently in year 10 and i need some advice on picking between english standard or advanced as im really torn in between right now. I would say Im not a terrible english student but I am not excelling either, I've asked my teachers and tutors and they all have different recs so im quite indecisive. I got 15/20 in my recent exam and have to pick out my hsc subjects soon and my teacher says im exactly in the middle of standard and advanced. I know advanced has the better cohort, scaling, teachers and generally better learning environment (im worried that ill start slacking off in standard) but im worried that i wont do well enough and really struggle through it and end up not getting the scaling benefit at the end which would be really upsetting. So im tempted to do standard for the easier course and less workload as i am planning some content heavy courses and wanting to do ext 2 maths but am unsure about the probability of me getting into the course. I would say i have a goodish chance as i am borderline top 25 in the cohort and i want to focus on maths so im not so sure. I know the standard cohort is relatively weak considering my school isn't doing great currently in terms of rankings and i would say the advanced cohort is better. I've seen a lot of people saying how there isn't much of a difference in terms of effort but a big difference in terms of workload and difficulty and how the advanced course tests your fluidity of language/writing which im not exceptionally great at? Right now i am looking for tutoring places and am trying to improve my writing but it's an difficult process. I am planning on taking maths adv, maths ext1, bio, chem, economics & textiles next year and want to get a high atar, currently aiming for 96+ so I would really appreciate any advice I can get at the moment.

same dilemma here lol, and the subjects you want to choose are similar to what I want to choose too!! hahaha

 

[liamkk112]

I heard that getting a band 6 in standard is pretty much impossible so im tempted to just try advanced and all my teachers make the literature analysing part and writing fluidity for advanced challenging and like strenuous which idk if its true but ty for the help anyways

it’s not impossible, if i hadn’t messed up my english had a little less i would’ve gotten band 6, but for reference someone in my class got a 95 external mark so it’s certainly possible (i just suck at english but somehow got rank 1)

imo, do advanced in year 11, and if it doesn’t work out and you think the workload is too high drop to standard. it worked well for me, my school had expectations of writing like 4-6 paragraphs of analysis in advanced compared to 2-3 in standard, insane ik but that’s just how it was. my school also had a class full of advanced droppers and were pretty supportive of the standard cohort, we had some pretty good teachers and tbh i would’ve not done nearly as well in english if i continued advanced through to year 12. however, because of the slightly better scaling, it’s worth a try and if you think you can keep it up in advanced then 100% keep it, otherwise there’s literally no issues with dropping to standard

 

[yonezwxu]

same dilemma here lol, and the subjects you want to choose are similar to what I want to choose too!! hahaha

its kinda good to see that im not the only one stuck in this situation lol, im just hoping what ever decision i make in the end will work out

 

[Cute-Duckie]

imo give advanced a go because you can drop down to standard, but you can't move up to advanced. if you're still unsure, look up different articles and such to see a side by side comparison of the actual content of the courses (thus with less personal bias than any opinion you'll get haha) - matrix, KIS academics, and other similar sites have some good articles that are quick to read.

good luck with choosing!

 

[yonezwxu]

imo give advanced a go because you can drop down to standard, but you can't move up to advanced. if you're still unsure, look up different articles and such to see a side by side comparison of the actual content of the courses (thus with less personal bias than any opinion you'll get haha) - matrix, KIS academics, and other similar sites have some good articles that are quick to read.

good luck with choosing!

yea, rn im looking at articles and trying to read some band 6 essays and see if i understand and trying to put my current marks in to estimate if i will get the scaling benefit, im just worried that i will be overwhelmed by the workload for adv and end up feeling discouraged seeing other ppl's writing and be burnt out and not do great. tysm i appreciate the advice!

 

[yonezwxu]

it’s not impossible, if i hadn’t messed up my english had a little less i would’ve gotten band 6, but for reference someone in my class got a 95 external mark so it’s certainly possible (i just suck at english but somehow got rank 1)

imo, do advanced in year 11, and if it doesn’t work out and you think the workload is too high drop to standard. it worked well for me, my school had expectations of writing like 4-6 paragraphs of analysis in advanced compared to 2-3 in standard, insane ik but that’s just how it was. my school also had a class full of advanced droppers and were pretty supportive of the standard cohort, we had some pretty good teachers and tbh i would’ve not done nearly as well in english if i continued advanced through to year 12. however, because of the slightly better scaling, it’s worth a try and if you think you can keep it up in advanced then 100% keep it, otherwise there’s literally no issues with dropping to standard

okok tysm for the advice, i really appreciate it. do you have any tips or tricks for a good essay wording and structure wise or just generally some advice if i end up choosing standard?

 

[yonezwxu]

i think most schools give u the option to drop down from advanced to standard. if ur school allows u to drop down, i think it would be a good idea to try advanced for a term or so just to see if you like it. standard does scale worse than adv, but its also worth considering that if u cant handle the workload of adv that ur mark may end up worse than if you were to do standard.

true true, would you say that its possible to do well as long as i put in the effort and work even in a not so strong relatively weak cohort in standard just as a backup? tysm for the advice tho

 

[liamkk112]

okok tysm for the advice, i really appreciate it. do you have any tips or tricks for a good essay wording and structure wise or just generally some advice if i end up choosing standard?

id say just know that standard isn't a bludge subject and u still need to put in effort, it is easier than advanced though

 

[spiderfan44]

true true, would you say that its possible to do well as long as i put in the effort and work even in a not so strong relatively weak cohort in standard just as a backup? tysm for the advice tho

yea ofc. i go to a school which hasnt had a band 6 in english standard in 5 years, despite 100 kids being in the cohort. so far ive averaged about 90 in assessments (keep in mind that i havent done trials or hsc yet). being in a poorly preforming cohort helps a bit with ranking, as theres less tough competition to beat. however, in my own experience, other students in my class can be quite disruptive and a bit lazy, quite often ill finish a lesson before others and have to spend half the lesson waiting for everyone else to finish and our class is often a bit behind on content due to that. teachers will notice though if youre putting in more effort than others, and often they will be more willing to help you out and provide you with more personalized feedback.

 

[amatterra]

its kinda good to see that im not the only one stuck in this situation lol, im just hoping what ever decision i make in the end will work out

we'll be alrightt I reckon

 

[yonezwxu]

we'll be alrightt I reckon

lets just hope so bc if im alr like this picking subject im not surviving the next 2 years

 

[amatterra]

lets just hope so bc if im alr like this picking subject im not surviving the next 2 years

hahahaha you aint the only one girl