For all u wanna be lawyers :) (1 Viewer)

[Jonathan A]

That is evil!!! Did you get to say pactus sunt servanda...or jus cogens??? No worries...you know ur stuff I bet u nailed it :uhhuh:

lol no, I referred to esjusdem generis and the like.

 

[Huratio]

I don't really recommend it. My reason:

When you do combined law, you do only 2 law subjects and 2 subjects from another discipline. That means if your 'stuff up' the law component, its only two. However a graduate student starts off with 4 law subjects. If you stuff the law compenant you stuff up 4 subjects out of 24 (or out of the 16 compulsory). It means in the long run does affect ability to get honours. Advantage of graduate though is that you are more well-prepared for law and study in general and are a little more mature. This is just my thought, there are some excellent graduate law students out there.

But I will say something in relation to what the LPAB think. The LPAB usually will not let students do more than 2 subjects a semester in the Diploma in Law course. Reason is that students will generally have difficulties doing more than two. It isn't till third year that the Board allows you to do three.

interesting. I have no idea- it was my careers advisor that told me the graduate law way.

 

[goan_crazy]

what about all the other universities?!

UWS more effective in giving access to individuals and society who want to do law but doesnt have the resources in themselves to get 99+ or whatever the sydney unis need 2 get into law

im evaluating the effectiveness of Melsc's thread :uhhuh:
lol

 

[Jonathan A]

UWS more effective in giving access to individuals and society who want to do law but doesnt have the resources in themselves to get 99+ or whatever the sydney unis need 2 get into law

im evaluating the effectiveness of Melsc's thread :uhhuh:
lol

I have used resources from both the UWS and Usyd Law Libraries,, wont jeopardise your future by going to UWS. In fact the Fed Gov's new library project will mean more resources. UWS also set the bar at a high standard for their students, its not an easy ride. One thing about UWS, it ALWAYS meets professional standard.

 

[santaslayer]

UOW - Faculty of Law
http://www.uow.edu.au/law/

About the UOW Faculty of Law
The Faculty of Law at the University of Wollongong was established in 1990. Professor John Goldring, then a member of the Australian Law Reform Commission and formerly Professor and Head of the School of Law at Macquarie University, was appointed as Foundation Dean. He was succeeded as Dean by Professor Helen Gamble in 1995 and by Associate Professor Robin Handley in October 1999. Professor Stuart Kaye is the current Dean of the Faculty.

The Faculty has attracted highly qualified staff from Universities in Australia and overseas and from the practice of law. It has Centres for Natural Resources Law and Policy, Maritime Policy and the Centre for Transnational Crime Prevention in which a number of specialist courses and subjects have been developed. The Faculty has also established a reputation for innovative research.

A range of postgraduate programs are offered by the Faculty including Masters and Doctorates by research and a coursework LLM (International and Comparative) for international students.

The undergraduate law degree courses leading to the LLB and the sequence of subjects in Legal Studies seek to develop the capacity of students to learn on their own. This is consistent with the University's emphasis on teaching as the creation of an environment which assists learning. Students who study law at Wollongong will learn law, rather than be taught law. This may not always be easy - nor may it be what students expect.

Students at Wollongong in the law and legal studies courses, both during their undergraduate and postgraduate degrees, will benefit from recent advances in legal education in Australia and elsewhere which have influenced the design of the courses and their component subjects. They will enjoy a friendly atmosphere which can only exist in a Faculty which emphasises the study of law as a shared activity of students and staff.

The Faculty also has a Legal Practice Unit which is open both to Wollongong students and those from other institutions. A Graduate Diploma in Legal Practice is awarded to students who successfully complete the Practical Legal Training (PLT) course which is accredited by the Legal Practitioners' Admission Board as a qualification for law graduates who wish to apply for admission as a legal practitioner in New South Wales.

The Faculty of Law continually engages in an ongoing process of self examination, aiming to enhance learning opportunities by providing students with access to various other legal institutions and advanced learning systems. An aspect of this is access to a wide range of computing services. For instance the Faculty is pleased that staff and students are able to take advantage of wide-ranging World Wide Web contacts such as those appearing under the heading "Links for Students" on the Current Student Information page.

Courses Available for Prospective Students
Try the CourseFinder available here:
http://www.uow.edu.au/prospective/

Cutoffs for 2005
These were generally about 91.00, but exact cutoffs for particular degrees can be found here.
http://www.uow.edu.au/prospective/downloads/prospectus/uow-uai-2005.pdf

Undergraduate Law Brochure
http://www.uow.edu.au/prospective/downloads/ugrad/06UgLaw.pdf

2005 Law Handbook
http://www.uow.edu.au/law/lawhandbook2005.pdf

Law Students Society
http://www.uow.edu.au/law/lss.html

Bonus 3 UAI Points Scheme
Does it apply to me?
If you have a UOW course as a preference and you completed your HSC this year at one of the schools in our regional area your admissions rank will automatically be increased by three points on the UAC system for University of Wollongong entry only.

The following list outlines which schools are eligible for the regional bonus three points:

Albion Park High School, Albion Park
Aquinas College, Menai
Batemans Bay High School, Batehaven
Bega High School, Bega
Bega Valley Christian College, Bega
Bomaderry High School, Bomaderry
Bowral High School, Bowral
Budawang School for Specific Purposes, Ulladulla
Bulli High School, Woonona
Caringbah High School, Caringbah
Carroll College, Broulee
Cedars Christian College, Unanderra
Chevalier College, Bowral
Corrimal High School, Corrimal East
Cronulla High School, Cronulla
Dapto High School, Dapto
De La Salle College, Cronulla
Eden Marine Technology High School, Eden
Edmund Rice College, Wollongong
Endeavour Sports High School, Caringbah
Engadine High School, Engadine
Figtree High School, Figtree
Frensham School, Mittagong
Gymea Technology High School, Gymea
Havenlee School for Specific Purposes, North Nowra
Heathcote High School, Heathcote
Holy Spirit College, Bellambi
Illawarra Christian School - Cordeaux Campus, Unanderra
Illawarra Christian School - Tongarra Campus, Calderwood
Illawarra Senior College, Port Kembla
Illawarra Sports High School, Berkeley
Inaburra School, Bangor
Kanahooka High School, Dapto
Keira Technology High School, Fairy Meadow
Kiama High School, Kiama
Kirrawee High School, Kirrawee
Lake Illawarra High School, Lake Illawarra
Lucas Heights Community School, Menai Central
Menai High School, Alfords Point
Minerva School for Special Purposes, Sutherland
Moruya High School, Moruya
Moss Vale High School, Moss Vale
Narooma High School, Narooma
Nowra Christian Community School, Nowra
Nowra Technology High School, Nowra
Oak Flats High School, Oak Flats
Oxley College, Bowral
Para Meadows School for Specific Purposes, North Wollongong
Peterborough School for Special Purposes, Peterborough
Picton High School, Picton
Port Hacking High School, Miranda
Shoalhaven Anglican School, Milton
Shoalhaven High School, Nowra East
Smith's Hill High School, Wollongong
Sutherland TAFE, Loftus
Southern Highlands Christian School
St John Bosco College, Engadine
St John the Evangelist High School, Nowra
St Joseph's Catholic High School, Albion Park
St Mary Star of the Sea College, Wollongong
St Patrick's College, Sutherland
St Paul’s International College, Moss Vale
Sutherland Shire Christian School, Sutherland
Sylvania High School, Sylvania
Tangara School for Special Purposes, Mittagong
The Illawarra Grammar School, Figtree
The Jannali High School, Jannali
Ulladulla High School, Ulladulla
Vincentia High School, Vincentia
Warilla High School, Barrack Heights
Warrawong High School, Warrawong
Wollongong High School of the Performing Arts, Fairy Meadow
Wollongong TAFE
Woolooware High School, Woolooware
Woonona High School, Woonona

What a champion.

 

[santaslayer]

What a champion.

What another champion.

 

[Huratio]

why does regional schools get a bonus 3 points..?

 

[goan_crazy]

Does UWS offer anything like that?!

 

[Huratio]

i think macq is gonna be tight... i don't think they offer any bonus points...

joe- i don't think so...

 

[melsc]

Does UWS offer anything like that?!

RET .

 

[wrong_turn]

joe joe joe!! of course...RET *nudge nudge* its a minimum of 10 uai points below your RET score...

im aiming for a few so that i have a variety of choices, but none the such of unsw or usyd

 

[melsc]

joe joe joe!! of course...RET *nudge nudge* its a minimum of 10 uai points below your RET score...

im aiming for a few so that i have a variety of choices, but none the such of unsw or usyd

I know I said that...Joe...wake up dude LOL

 

[Cape]

Following on from the WW said:

Heres every single piece of information you will need about the RET.

http://www.uws.edu.au/about/adminorg/academic/oar/info/admissions/regionalentrytests

 

[goan_crazy]

Thanks cape and WW
but i just saw this:

The following courses are NOT available through RET as additional selection criteria apply:

UAC Code Course
704200 B Health Science (Nursing)
705600 B Laws (Graduate Entry)
705625 B Laws (Graduate Entry)
705650 B Laws (Non-Graduate Entry)
707885 B Performance
708175 B Electronic Arts
708200 B Fine Arts
708225 B Music
law is there

so does that mean we cannot use the RET test to get into law?

 

[Cape]

Thanks cape and WW
but i just saw this:

The following courses are NOT available through RET as additional selection criteria apply:

UAC Code Course
704200 B Health Science (Nursing)
705600 B Laws (Graduate Entry)
705625 B Laws (Graduate Entry)
705650 B Laws (Non-Graduate Entry)
707885 B Performance
708175 B Electronic Arts
708200 B Fine Arts
708225 B Music
law is there

so does that mean we cannot use the RET test to get into law?

There are 2 law courses there, which are graduate entry, so you don't need to worry about that yet.

The other course 705650 - has entry through TAFE and is not for current school leavers.

These courses have alternative entry methods - they just don't focus upon your UAI.

This means you can use RET for law.

 

[wrong_turn]

joe my man, ntb did get into law through RET?!

it would have school leavers instead of non-grad as well.

 

[hYperTrOphY]

In relation to the University of Notre Dame, there is no UAI cut-offs and there will be no UAI cut-offs for 2005 HSC guraduates to my knowledge.
From the information I have, your UAI will be taken into consideration - for example, they wont let someone who gets 65 do law - however, there will be no definite or strict cut-off for any course - including law. More important will be your application and interview (as well as UAI.)

For those wishing to apply for law at the University of Notre Dame, you would need a UAI of high 80s to early 90s for realistic consideration.

 

[goan_crazy]

In relation to the University of Notre Dame, there is no UAI cut-offs and there will be no UAI cut-offs for 2005 HSC guraduates to my knowledge.
From the information I have, your UAI will be taken into consideration - for example, they wont let someone who gets 65 do law - however, there will be no definite or strict cut-off for any course - including law. More important will be your application and interview (as well as UAI.)

For those wishing to apply for law at the University of Notre Dame, you would need a UAI of high 80s to early 90s for realistic consideration.

Notre dame, they dont do their applications with UAC
so im gonna apply
u apply separately

 

[melsc]

Notre dame, they dont do their applications with UAC
so im gonna apply
u apply separately

so how to do apply?

 

[Huratio]

so how to do apply?

i have no idea how to apply.. but i'm applying as well...

apparently they only accept like 40 students per course or something like that.. and some courses are not supported by HECS.