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i'd love to chain vandals to a bare wall naked, spray shit on them and gag them with the fucking can. retards detroy everything. then i'd get the owners of every property they fucked up to kick them in the nuts one after the other. one of my best moments was telling city rail those shit heads were vandalising a millenium at Bankstown. i hope those fuckers get raped in jail.
Ok, keep your faggit tendencies to yourself. You'd chain anything to a wall naked and gag it, wouldn't you sweetheart?
''Retards destroy everything"? Seems a tad politically incorrect... and be careful what you wish for, because maybe one day you'll rack up a few traffic infringements and find yourself in a cell with Mr. T, the samoan with a steaming erection.
Lets take a look at your argument though. You would chain every single one of these people up to a wall, naked, (blushing inwardly at your hard little knob), and allow them to be savagely beaten by the owners of the property they fucked up?
I hope you enjoy having your balls kicked, because I bet you've drawn on a school desk? Tossed a piece of rubbish on the ground? Spat? Had a party in a park? In some way you will have commited an offense which dirtied public property. I know I have, and regularly do. You have. Everyone has.

Graffiti, at its most pure, is not mindless vandalism. It is a highly stylised and original art from which has evolved from a desire to rebel against the oppressive and bleak social landscape which dominates our modern day society. It is the new revolution, and it represents the deepest desire of the human subconscious to show discontent with authority.
The way of the world, however, with its focus on commercialisation and the profit driven marketing teams fronting big companies, has exposed an underground artform, with a small group of dedicated followers, and integrated graffiti into popular culture. With the assimilation of anything into mainstream society comes, hand in hand, an explosion in the intake of participants in said activity. It happened with smoking, automobiles and, fuck me dead, with graffiti.

Now, it is generally accepted by society that advertising is an effective way of communicating information about almost any subject, and as such advertising is not illegal. Yet specific products may face a ban, such as tobacco, because they incite behaviour which is not socially desirable, and has a 'social cost', considered unacceptable by society. So, my brother, the conception and glorification of graffiti and the revolutionary ethos into mainstream society and its constant presence in advertising and commercial companies has led to it being a widely practised and followed artform. And yet the government does not ban graffiti in ads? And now you blame people for doing it? I could go on, and compare the relative incosequenciality of the act of graffiting a surface, owned by a restrictive, constrictive and often outright autocratical government to the relatively major act of murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people overseas in wars that don't concern us, in countries you'll never visit, and in fact I could even study the relationship between the two acts, as cause and effect, government mistakes and individual discontent but fuck it. You get the point.

That is, if you even read this far... though from your rudimentary grasp of english I'm guessing you dropped out to clean toilets.
 

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. And yet the government does not ban graffiti in ads? And now you blame people for doing it?
Such an ignorant, exasperating idiot you are! The government does not ban violent acts in ads... but it is illegal to do so in real life...ur analogy lacks any logic.

Although i have not researched substanially into this form of artwork, yes i will go to this extreme and call it this, nor have i analysed the contextual devlopments surrounding this history, i'm am sure with a person of ur intellect u can decipher what is reality and what is fake.

That is, if you even read this far... though from your rudimentary grasp of english I'm guessing you dropped out to clean toilets.
Literate people can construct short and concise arguments, without being verbose. If he did, it must be ur toilets he is cleaning because the weak sense of reality you have.. must make it hard for u to know where exctly the toilet is.

Graffiti, at its most pure, is not mindless vandalism. "
Despite your argument constantly refering to government policies e.g. ads not being banned, you forget about the government's stance on vandalism. i must remind you that graffiti is banned because it is an " act of mindless vandalism" as the government describes.
See i disproved your idiotic rantings in less than a few sentences.
 
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Such an ignorant, exasperating idiot you are! The government does not ban violent acts in ads... but it is illegal to do so in real life...ur analogy lacks any logic.

Although i have not researched substanially into this form of artwork, yes i will go to this extreme and call it this, nor have i analysed the contextual devlopments surrounding this history, i'm am sure with a person of ur intellect u can decipher what is reality and what is fake.

Literate people can construct short and concise arguments, without being verbose. If he did, it must be ur toilets he is cleaning because the weak sense of reality you have.. must make it hard for u to know where exctly the toilet is.


Despite your argument constantly refering to government policies e.g. ads not being banned, you forget about the government's stance on vandalism. i must remind you that graffiti is banned because it is an " act of mindless vandalism" as the government describes.
See i disproved your idiotic rantings in less than a few sentences.
I'll ignore the fact that you in no way disproved my arguments. To actually deconstruct my thesis and rebut it would not take a significantly talented individual. You apparently, do not posess this level of sophistication. In the end, I am blinded by what I love. I believe, like a terrorist believes they are a freedom fighter, and like John Howard believes in America, that graffiti is a beautiful artform. I do not believe that graffiti is legal, or that the government promotes graffiti, simply takes action that is too poorly considered to be truly effective. What I believe is that graffiti is persecuted above other crimes because it is visible, and it is primarily through mainstream culture that graffiti has become gang oriented. In most cases, graffiti is considered a more serious crime than serious assault. Go figure. The western ideals of material possession above societal considerations come into play once more. For me, a society without rebels and those who can speak out is a dead society.
 

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ESHAYS ADLAYS said:
I'll ignore the fact that you in no way disproved my arguments. To actually deconstruct my thesis and rebut it would not take a significantly talented individual. You apparently, do not posess this level of sophistication. In the end, I am blinded by what I love. I believe, like a terrorist believes they are a freedom fighter, and like John Howard believes in America, that graffiti is a beautiful artform. I do not believe that graffiti is legal, or that the government promotes graffiti, simply takes action that is too poorly considered to be truly effective. What I believe is that graffiti is persecuted above other crimes because it is visible, and it is primarily through mainstream culture that graffiti has become gang oriented. In most cases, graffiti is considered a more serious crime than serious assault. Go figure. The western ideals of material possession above societal considerations come into play once more. For me, a society without rebels and those who can speak out is a dead society.
word. I would write a long-ass essay on my point of view on graffiti but nah! just one thing is that NOT ALL graffiti writers/taggers/bombers are vandals then i wouldn't be on bos then? lol
 

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that octopus one was awesome. I will consent that graffiti has become somewhat of an artform, but its also defacing shit. Because say a shopkeeper wants a good image for his business, then some dickhead spray paints on his wall swear words, sexual acts and their gronk tags in black...how is that an artform? Most graffiti is an eyesaw, some are very good but most are just stupid. "Jack Woz 'ere!" ... uhh good for you jack.
Graffiti the act is stupid and a crime, graffiti the art[ as in the good shit, not the crappy tags] is nice. My local youth centre has a very large wall that they dont mind if people put nice graffiti on., and they paint over it with white every now and again so people get their turn. Thats a much better option than spraying your shit where it might offend people, or cause others to lose business
 

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I'll ignore the fact that you in no way disproved my arguments.
Intrepretation: Wow ...u proved my (aka eshasy's )argument wrong in a concise way.

"You apparently, do not posess this level of sophistication. "

Apparently i thought u were just a troll..but obviously u lack any level of intelligence/logic that constitutes to being a troll.

The other stuff i didn't really understand what u were on about.
In the future, please make clear, concise and logical posts so that i as well as other bos members will be able to read and reply to them appropriately.:)
meanwhile refrain from posting
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garbagedump said:
Intrepretation: Wow ...u proved my (aka eshasy's )argument wrong in a concise way.

"You apparently, do not posess this level of sophistication. "

Apparently i thought u were just a troll..but obviously u lack any level of intelligence/logic that constitutes to being a troll.

Oh yeah...the other stuff i didnt' really understand what u were on about. :)
In the future, please make clear, concise and logic posts so that i as well as other bos members will be able to read and reply to them appropriately.:)

thankyou
PS Refrain from posting. There is no need to reply to this post
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some good ol sydney graffiti yo! don't flame me for some toy ones these are all from sydney so....




















 

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more sydney art! i really hate the toy "ikan" if you know what im talking about!




















 

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