x3Reii
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Yes, gay marriage should be legalised. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry a gay person. Simple as that.
Fun fact: Homosexuality exists in many species. Homophobia exists in one.
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Yes, gay marriage should be legalised. If you're against gay marriage then don't marry a gay person. Simple as that.
Fun fact: Homosexuality exists in many species. Homophobia exists in one.
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^ So many people commenting on that video did not get the sarcasm; satire clearly isn't obvious to everyone.
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Ok, i'm not saying whether this makes me for gay marriage or against it, but i have a question to ask. WHY do homosexuals want to be married? Like what would they gain? SOmeone please inform me on the benefits they can get from a married status? Is there any major financial gain etc.? I just find it interesting that heterosexual couples are increasingly going for de facto relationships rather than getting married but homosexuals wish to reverse this trend by getting married rather than living in a de facto relationship.
As for my position on the issue, considering that I'm straight, gay marriage won't have any conceivable impact on me whatsoever. Nor do I think that it will have a negative impact on society considering that its ultimately a personal issue for gays. If it makes them happy and doesn't cause any harm to anyone else, I don't see why we can't jsut legalise it.
As for my position on the issue, considering that I'm straight, gay marriage won't have any conceivable impact on me whatsoever. Nor do I think that it will have a negative impact on society considering that its ultimately a personal issue for gays. If it makes them happy and doesn't cause any harm to anyone else, I don't see why we can't jsut legalise it.
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it really isn't that difficult to understand. your line of inquiry borders on the homophobic, as you're treating homosexuals as some kind of curiosity (why assume homosexuals want to be married for different reasons to anyone else? a better question is why does ANYONE want to be married?) and you reference the monolithic "homosexuality" ("homosexuals wish to reverse this trend", wow, really? you've spoken to the collective homosexuality?)
there aren't really many "benefits" to de jure marital status. the federal government has eliminated all statutory and otherwise discrimination regarding de facto relationships. however, i believe that in some circumstances it is more convenient to have de jure marital status, such as for immigration purposes. but there isn't a major financial gain - the benefits are fringe, at most.
your assertion that "heterosexual couples are increasingly going for de fact relationships rather than getting married" is unfounded. the marriage rate in australia is NOT falling, it is has been stable for about 10 years and the gross number of marriages has been rising. clearly, then, marriage is still an institution valued by members of society for whatever reason.
"the homosexuals" do not wish to reverse any trend. the fact is they have no access to de jure marital status, so that is a nonsense statement (and factually incorrect; see above).
just like heterosexuals, some homosexual couples are religious, and some religious organisations will offer marriage services to homosexuals. although i have no idea about the actual numbers, this explains why some homosexual couples would seek marriage. but considering around 70% of marriages in this day and age are done by civil celebrants, i imagine that homosexual couples may very well wish to marry each other for the very same reason that anyone else does - which is a better question.
why can't we just legalise it? well, the state can. and it'll probably happen.
there aren't really many "benefits" to de jure marital status. the federal government has eliminated all statutory and otherwise discrimination regarding de facto relationships. however, i believe that in some circumstances it is more convenient to have de jure marital status, such as for immigration purposes. but there isn't a major financial gain - the benefits are fringe, at most.
your assertion that "heterosexual couples are increasingly going for de fact relationships rather than getting married" is unfounded. the marriage rate in australia is NOT falling, it is has been stable for about 10 years and the gross number of marriages has been rising. clearly, then, marriage is still an institution valued by members of society for whatever reason.
"the homosexuals" do not wish to reverse any trend. the fact is they have no access to de jure marital status, so that is a nonsense statement (and factually incorrect; see above).
just like heterosexuals, some homosexual couples are religious, and some religious organisations will offer marriage services to homosexuals. although i have no idea about the actual numbers, this explains why some homosexual couples would seek marriage. but considering around 70% of marriages in this day and age are done by civil celebrants, i imagine that homosexual couples may very well wish to marry each other for the very same reason that anyone else does - which is a better question.
why can't we just legalise it? well, the state can. and it'll probably happen.
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well I otherwise wouldn't give a fuck either way
but given the way they are whinging fucks about it I would probably get some satisfaction from them continuing to not be able to get married i.e. being "oppressed"
but given the way they are whinging fucks about it I would probably get some satisfaction from them continuing to not be able to get married i.e. being "oppressed"
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It really isn't about any financial benefit because like you said there isn't that much of a gain. It's more about respect than anything. Because essentially if gay marriage is illegal, it's basically saying that homosexual people are different when really, we're all just humans. Gay couples just want to be recognised as equal and that they're no different from straight couples.
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well isn't the only recognition that matters legal recognition? marriage is a term, and unforunatly the religious fanatics of this world have taken it as their own with their own meanings. in the end, who the fuck cares if it's a 'marriage' or a 'civil union'. it has the same real-world ramifications and the only people who lose out are idealists who will always find something to be unhappy about.
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If homosexuals married for the purpose of a union, then thats seems completely ok objectively speaking.
However what I find more interesting is the concept of two dads or two mothers raising a child, wouldn't this concept f*ck with the child's brain. Psychologist already know about the overwhelming effects of 'nuture' on behaivour, having two same gendered parents could be greatly traumatic. Is it instinctual to expect a mum and a dad from birth? So Is it ethical to raise a child this way?
Though i suppose most people aren't raised in perfect environments anyways that's why so many personalities exist.
that's all...
If homosexuals married for the purpose of a union, then thats seems completely ok objectively speaking.
However what I find more interesting is the concept of two dads or two mothers raising a child, wouldn't this concept f*ck with the child's brain. Psychologist already know about the overwhelming effects of 'nuture' on behaivour, having two same gendered parents could be greatly traumatic. Is it instinctual to expect a mum and a dad from birth? So Is it ethical to raise a child this way?
Though i suppose most people aren't raised in perfect environments anyways that's why so many personalities exist.
that's all...
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Lol. Kill yourself.
Gays are a lot better at raising children than drug abusers, abusive parents, etc. and they're allowed to have kids.
You obviously have no friends with gay parents. I have several with lesbian parents. They're completely fine. More well-adjusted than me.
Lol. ITT: Idiots
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Try putting yourself in the shoe of a gay or lesbian person. If I was gay, I'd want to ask the person I love to marry me not 'civil union' me. Doesn't seem fair does it? The government is basically saying that heterosexual love is a better type of love than homosexual.
What about single parents? Ban them too? If it is instinctual to have "a mum and a dad from birth", wouldn't it screw with the child's mind to only have one. I don't know if people agree with me but personally, I'd think it'd be better to have two mums or two dads than to be an orphan.