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OOps my bad.

A partical p is at the origin at time t=0 and moves so its velocity for t=> 0 is given by v=1/t+1

(i) what is the acceleration (already answered)

(ii) what is the displacement x from P at the origin when t=1
 

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x = ∫ 1/t + 1 dt
= ln (t) + t + C, this is where we hit a little snag, because when t = 0, ln 0 is undefined, so there's a little problem there. Unless the actual equation is 1/(t+1), but this also changes the acceleration. Anyway, continuing on with 1/(t+1),
x = ∫ 1/(t+1) dt
= ln (t+1) + C
x = 0 when t = 0, so
0 = ln 1 + C, therefore C = 0, so x = ln (t+1)
substituting t = 1, x = ln 2
 

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Hey sorry about hijacking your thread but I thought that it would better if i asked my integration question here than starting up a new thread...

Find the equation of the tangent to the parabola y= 2x^2 at (1,2). Calculate its point of intersection with the x-axis and the volume of the solid formed when the area betw'n the parabola, the tangent and the x axis is revolved about the x axis.

I have worked out that the tangent is y=4x -2 and the intersection with the x axis is x=1/2. The volume should be 2pi/3 but i can't work that out.
 

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To find points of intersection, solve simutaneously
y = 2x2
y = 4x-2
2x2 = 4x - 2
x2 - 2x + 1 = 0
(x-1)2 = 0
thereforer the curves only touch when x = 1, therefore we only need to be concerned with the volume found when rotating y = 4x-2, as the parabola does not affect that volume. Use the bounds x = 1 to x = 1/2
y = 4x-2
y2 = 16x2 - 16x + 4
pi 1/21 16x2 - 16x + 4 dx
= pi[16x3/3 - 8x2 + 4x]11/2
= pi[(16/3 - 8 + 4) - (2/3 - 2 + 2)]
= pi(16/3 - 4 - 2/3)
= pi(14/3 - 4)
= 2pi/3 units3
 

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ooo Thats where i went wrong~! I thought that the limits were 0 and 1... opps

Thankz for solving it for me
 
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that can't be right... it's the area bounded by x-axis, parabola and tangent rotated around the x-axis, so the parabola does affect it.

draw up a picture if you can't visualise it
you need to find the volume of the area under the parabola, and subtract the volume under the line (which happens to be a cone of radius 2 height 0.5 -> volume = (pi * r^2 * h)/3 = 2pi/3)

if you want to check by integration:
y^2 = (4x - 2)^2
V = pi * int(0.5->1)(4x - 2)^2dx -> (4(1) - 2)^3/12 - (4(0.5) - 2)^3/12 = 8pi/12 = 2pi/3

y = 2x^2
y^2 = 4x^4

pi * int(0->1) 4x^4dx = 4pi/5

so the total volume is pi(4/5 - 2/3) = 2pi/15 units^3
 

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word. said:
that can't be right... it's the area bounded by x-axis, parabola and tangent rotated around the x-axis, so the parabola does affect it.

draw up a picture if you can't visualise it
you need to find the volume of the area under the parabola, and subtract the volume under the line (which happens to be a cone of radius 2 height 0.5 -> volume = (pi * r^2 * h)/3 = 2pi/3)

if you want to check by integration:
y^2 = (4x - 2)^2
V = pi * int(0.5->1)(4x - 2)^2dx -> (4(1) - 2)^3/12 - (4(0.5) - 2)^3/12 = 8pi/12 = 2pi/3

y = 2x^2
y^2 = 4x^4

pi * int(0->1) 4x^4dx = 4pi/5

so the total volume is pi(4/5 - 2/3) = 2pi/15 units^3
lol I got 2pi/15 u^3 as well....
 

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