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Re: internships 07
I have pages and pages of stuff im involved with, experience with all kinds of things in many positions and roles as well as lots of work experience , but I wouldn't have stood a chance.......it would've counted for nothing
Oh for sure, but really, for this recruitment drive marketing related work experience trumps..particularly when you only have a few spots available and these candidates show involvement in both work and non related thingsstazi said:
I have pages and pages of stuff im involved with, experience with all kinds of things in many positions and roles as well as lots of work experience , but I wouldn't have stood a chance.......it would've counted for nothing
Re: internships 07
yeah, that's true. P&G have a set process though, and they don't like bending it (although, granted, they did change it for me slightly). Why would it have counted for nothing? Especially if you have pages and pages of stuff? You sound like a very strong candidate.
Would I be able to have a look at your CV, out of interest? I can show you mine too, if you want.
yeah, that's true. P&G have a set process though, and they don't like bending it (although, granted, they did change it for me slightly). Why would it have counted for nothing? Especially if you have pages and pages of stuff? You sound like a very strong candidate.
Would I be able to have a look at your CV, out of interest? I can show you mine too, if you want.
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I probably am taking it from an ends point of view, and it's not that I don't see the value in P&G giving more than the necessary number an opportunity to go through the recruitment process whether it be for the experience of sitting the PST, completing the data sheet or even going for an interview. It's just easy to view it from the other end too.
For myself specifically, I have zero marketing experience (actual work related marketing experience anyway). Even with the extra stuff I do, I think their final process is really looking out for strong a background in both areas, and for that reason I dont think my own experience would've counted for anything
Don't get me wrong though, P&G have been quite good in recruitment in the grand scheme of things (I've experienced much worse!), I just like to question the way things are done and like to see the possibility for change if there is no valid reason to keep the existing format (in its entirety as it stands).
I guess ultimately, I'm very interested to find out the outcome (fingers crossed you'll get one of the spots, if not the only one!) I'd really love to hear about the final competition and how everyone compared (even if only from what you find out as a candidate yourself!). If only I couldve gone to my interview myself it would've been quite insightful.
For sure, wouldn't mind swapping CV's. I dont actually have mine on this computer atm
PS for the person asking for the P&G website. If you do end up applying next year, keep an eye out on it even after the deadline. This year they extended the deadline as they didnt have much response. Which I suspect is why stazi got shuffled around a bit with the time delay in responses etc. I'm guessing you applied on time
I probably am taking it from an ends point of view, and it's not that I don't see the value in P&G giving more than the necessary number an opportunity to go through the recruitment process whether it be for the experience of sitting the PST, completing the data sheet or even going for an interview. It's just easy to view it from the other end too.
For myself specifically, I have zero marketing experience (actual work related marketing experience anyway). Even with the extra stuff I do, I think their final process is really looking out for strong a background in both areas, and for that reason I dont think my own experience would've counted for anything
Don't get me wrong though, P&G have been quite good in recruitment in the grand scheme of things (I've experienced much worse!), I just like to question the way things are done and like to see the possibility for change if there is no valid reason to keep the existing format (in its entirety as it stands).
I guess ultimately, I'm very interested to find out the outcome (fingers crossed you'll get one of the spots, if not the only one!) I'd really love to hear about the final competition and how everyone compared (even if only from what you find out as a candidate yourself!). If only I couldve gone to my interview myself it would've been quite insightful.
For sure, wouldn't mind swapping CV's. I dont actually have mine on this computer atm
PS for the person asking for the P&G website. If you do end up applying next year, keep an eye out on it even after the deadline. This year they extended the deadline as they didnt have much response. Which I suspect is why stazi got shuffled around a bit with the time delay in responses etc. I'm guessing you applied on time
Re: internships 07
I applied very early: on the first day it opened. As you can tell I really want the job
I agree that their process needs refining. However, they keep it consistent worldwide, and because of this, I doubt they would modify it at all. Even secretaries and temp contract staff have to sit this through this arduous process. I've noticed that P&G have a very strong "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality. They like sticking to a set process, both in their marketing, and their recruitment.
I guess the positive element of it is that if you don't have much experience, sit the PST, and then don't get an offer for an interview, you could call up and find out what else you need to do to be accepted into the grad interviews. Cutting out a large number of applicants instantly would expel that opportunity.
My email is s.madorski [ a t ] gmail com (of course without the spaces and stuff, i just want to confuse bots that collect emails for spam related purposes. What's your email - i'll send through the CV and SDS (although i failed on the SDS stage, as you may remember; had to beg my way in).
I applied very early: on the first day it opened. As you can tell I really want the job
I agree that their process needs refining. However, they keep it consistent worldwide, and because of this, I doubt they would modify it at all. Even secretaries and temp contract staff have to sit this through this arduous process. I've noticed that P&G have a very strong "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality. They like sticking to a set process, both in their marketing, and their recruitment.
I guess the positive element of it is that if you don't have much experience, sit the PST, and then don't get an offer for an interview, you could call up and find out what else you need to do to be accepted into the grad interviews. Cutting out a large number of applicants instantly would expel that opportunity.
My email is s.madorski [ a t ] gmail com (of course without the spaces and stuff, i just want to confuse bots that collect emails for spam related purposes. What's your email - i'll send through the CV and SDS (although i failed on the SDS stage, as you may remember; had to beg my way in).
Re: internships 07
oh and im very surprised that P&G stress the importance of teamwork, and generally working with people, as well as leadership. It's bizarre that they have no group-based activities in their recruitment, which would show them whether you actually practice what you preach during interviews
edit: haha i love how i get singapore google ads at the bottom of this thread, considering the number of times i've mentioned the country here
oh and im very surprised that P&G stress the importance of teamwork, and generally working with people, as well as leadership. It's bizarre that they have no group-based activities in their recruitment, which would show them whether you actually practice what you preach during interviews
edit: haha i love how i get singapore google ads at the bottom of this thread, considering the number of times i've mentioned the country here
Re: internships 07
Its probably a strength of P&G's that as you mentioned, their recruitment is consistent worldwide, and I quite like that concept (though PS. it means the PST is standardised so it's the same every year... ) but it really struck me by surprise that they didn't include a group work element (adding even one extra step surely isn't that big a deal given the number of steps involved already...)
It's ironic that companies that aren't necessarily heavily teams based all recruit on the basis of groupwork situations (as is the trend in recruitment processes in general..) but P&G doesnt. I guess that's what they use the SDS for kind of? But as you say..actually practicing that is another thing. And I know it can be damn frustrating to be working with obnoxious overbearing people particularly in marketing.....
ETA: pm'ing you now
I absolutely agree!stazi said:
Its probably a strength of P&G's that as you mentioned, their recruitment is consistent worldwide, and I quite like that concept (though PS. it means the PST is standardised so it's the same every year...
) but it really struck me by surprise that they didn't include a group work element (adding even one extra step surely isn't that big a deal given the number of steps involved already...)It's ironic that companies that aren't necessarily heavily teams based all recruit on the basis of groupwork situations (as is the trend in recruitment processes in general..) but P&G doesnt. I guess that's what they use the SDS for kind of? But as you say..actually practicing that is another thing. And I know it can be damn frustrating to be working with obnoxious overbearing people particularly in marketing.....
ETA: pm'ing you now
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Re: internships 07
Let us know how it goes.
Congrats man, lucky since iirc there are only around 3 o/s banks in china. Dont mess up, and you should have a pretty strong chance at a grad job!dyun said:
Let us know how it goes.
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haha but dyun got it in China, where personal relations dominate over skills and effort. Although in our culture, nepotism is frowned upon, there are still advantages in hiring family friends, as they are least likely to let you down, or jump ship to another company.
haha but dyun got it in China, where personal relations dominate over skills and effort. Although in our culture, nepotism is frowned upon, there are still advantages in hiring family friends, as they are least likely to let you down, or jump ship to another company.
Re: internships 07
I've still got the offer with CommBank, although I haven't mailed in the contract yet. I'll do so tomorrow if I don't get P&G.
They're only sending two people to Singapore out of the 1,800; which is why I'm so nervous
I called up HR today and the woman said that Marketing should be calling today and tomorrow with offers. I hope that they didn't start calling today, as I assume they'd contact those who received the offers first.
I got rejected for marketing, but accepted for everything else at the SDS phase. Well, it wasn't so much begging, but me calling up and asking to speak to the main recruitment lady, and talking about my qualifications. They decided to put me through to the first interview round based on that conversation as " demonstrated leadership by calling up"s.m.i.t.h said:
I've still got the offer with CommBank, although I haven't mailed in the contract yet. I'll do so tomorrow if I don't get P&G.
They're only sending two people to Singapore out of the 1,800; which is why I'm so nervous
I called up HR today and the woman said that Marketing should be calling today and tomorrow with offers. I hope that they didn't start calling today, as I assume they'd contact those who received the offers first.
Re: internships 07
They just haven't started chasing it up with me, so I assume it's OK that I haven't sent it in. I emailed my contact on Monday asking if it's OK to send it in late this week after I hear back from P&G, but I haven't heard back from her yet. I assume that she's away for the week.
I doubt thathavy said:
They just haven't started chasing it up with me, so I assume it's OK that I haven't sent it in. I emailed my contact on Monday asking if it's OK to send it in late this week after I hear back from P&G, but I haven't heard back from her yet. I assume that she's away for the week.