is it easier to attain a high ENTER (VCE) compared to a high ATAR (HSC)? (1 Viewer)

[Brennyd]

there have been a number of cases in my last few years at school, where i have noticed students getting much higher enter scores than uai/atar scores. i have also noticed that students that have not shown as much academic ability than others, but attended a victorian school have achieved similar or higher scores than that of the hsc candidant.

discuss.

 

[study-freak]

I would think so.

1.No 3 hours exams for the VCE.
2.The data sheets that are provided for the VCE are far more extensive.
3.LOL, No 3-8 markers for science (Thus damn easy)

 

[annabackwards]

I would think so.

1.No 3 hours exams for the VCE.
2.The data sheets that are provided for the VCE are far more extensive.
3.LOL, No 3-8 markers for science (Thus damn easy)

That an according to my friend who moved down to Melbourne and my cousins, the competition is less fierce.

 

[Brennyd]

exactly. then we use the same benchmark to assure a place at university. what a joke.

 

[study-freak]

exactly. then we use the same benchmark to assure a place at university. what a joke.

Yea, that's unfair.
I've heard that HSC was actually regarded as superior to VCE in the past (don't know when), but they somehow changed it so that ENTER=ATAR lol

 

[Aldehyde]

I'd say easier than both VCE and HSC would be the Queensland system. You have ongoing assesment all year, which includes about 2 exams and 1 assignment each semester for each subject.

In order to balance this we have a test called the QCS (Queensland Core Skills Test) which every OP-eligible student in Queensland must sit. Your individual result does not count towards your OP, rather, it is your school's overall QCS result which plays a role.

In addition, it isn't really percentage based- the majority of tests are criteria based: A, B, C, D, E. Just make sure you get A's in everything and you'd be looking at an OP 1-3 in most cases.

Every school writes their own tests for each subject, so some schools may be "harder" than others- QCS attempts to fix that assuming that a good QCS performance = good school results.

 

[Brennyd]

yeah it really is stupid, the education system really need to make a national-wide common grading system that makes it fair on all students. at present, the state which you live in has a major effect on how well you go in your final year mark and therefore the university courses you are able to consider.

 

[annabackwards]

I always get told the QLD system = fail

yeah it really is stupid, the education system really need to make a national-wide common grading system that makes it fair on all students. at present, the state which you live in has a major effect on how well you go in your final year mark and therefore the university courses you are able to consider.

Yeah :/