Israel Taking Over the World (2 Viewers)

[cheese_cheese]

Israel is technically and scientifically savvy. They are allies with Australia and other western nations. What more could we want?

 

[boris]

It's not the quantity it's the quality. Israel has been outnumbered many times before, having to fight several larger armies at the same time (Jordan, Egypt, Syria etc.) and still won. And that was before Israel became as strong as it is today. Turkey would absolutely destroy Israel in a war, but that doesn't mean Israel won't go down fighting. The UN IAEA states Israel has roughly 200-400 nuclear weapons, that's enough to destroy Turkey 50 times over. But of course, Turkey do have about 90 B61 NATO allocated nuclear weapons, the majority at Turkeys Incerlik Air Force base. Doesn't help much when your enemy knows where you store most of your nukes, does it? Plus, Israel has the slight upper edge when it comes to the Air Force. Well I said "even Turkey" because in that region, The United States are there, Iran is there, Pakistan is there, India is there, the Chinese are there. I by no means meant to say Turkey wouldn't decimate them, but in the midst of other military powers and Israel's successful military history, Turkey would still easily prevail.

dont lecture me on the capabilities of various armed forces lol

"Turkey would absolutely destroy Israel in a war,"

thanks for saying to me exactly what i said to you
i cant think of any nation ever (except poland and france) who would go down without fighting whats your point. yes israel is very capable but turkey would ruin them.

who cares about nukes you fag, no one will use one ever

pakistan india and china are hardly in the same region as israel you idiot and i hardly think that US presence in the mideast is a mitigating factor when it comes to israeli agression

"I by no means meant to say Turkey wouldn't decimate them, but in the midst of other military powers and Israel's successful military history, Turkey would still easily prevail."

do you even listen to the things you say

 

[boris]

What is bad about Israel?

barnsey mate

illegally occupying land and ethnically cleansing Palestinians i guess

 

[cheese_cheese]

illegally occupying land and ethnically cleansing Palestinians i guess

It is Israels land. They have a right to defend their borders. If terrorists launch rockets across the border at Israel then Israel (just like Australia or any other country would) has the right to fire back to deter the terrorists and to protect the Israeli citizens and border.

 

[noworriez1]

dont lecture me on the capabilities of various armed forces lol

"Turkey would absolutely destroy Israel in a war,"

thanks for saying to me exactly what i said to you
i cant think of any nation ever (except poland and france) who would go down without fighting whats your point. yes israel is very capable but turkey would ruin them.

who cares about nukes you fag, no one will use one ever

pakistan india and china are hardly in the same region as israel you idiot and i hardly think that US presence in the mideast is a mitigating factor when it comes to israeli agression

"I by no means meant to say Turkey wouldn't decimate them, but in the midst of other military powers and Israel's successful military history, Turkey would still easily prevail."

do you even listen to the things you say

this in a nutshell

 

[boris]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights

 

[kaz1]

It is Israels land. They have a right to defend their borders. If terrorists launch rockets across the border at Israel then Israel (just like Australia or any other country would) has the right to fire back to deter the terrorists and to protect the Israeli citizens and border.

You can also say that the Palestinians have a right to fight back for their land.

 

[noworriez1]

there is very little substance in his posts
very misguided and ignorant

plus i take it the occupy sydney movement was a flop
ur time is increasingly being spent here

 

[cheese_cheese]

You can also say that the Palestinians have a right to fight back for their land.

You could. Although it (the land in question) has been Israels land for decades now with Israeli cities established there now. You can't simply uproot whole Israeli towns now. It would be good to see the Israeli-Palestinian peace process settled, although it is not going to occur by Israel giving the West Bank to Palestine. Remember, the Palestinian government is listed as a terrorist organization in both Australia and America.

 

[cheese_cheese]

there is very little substance in his posts
very misguided and ignorant

plus i take it the occupy sydney movement was a flop
ur time is increasingly being spent here

Occupy Perth is going well today. Occupy Sydney will return in larger numbers this weekend, the police have been patrolling Martin Place fairly heavy handed since they removed everyone.

 

[alstah]

dont lecture me on the capabilities of various armed forces lol

"Turkey would absolutely destroy Israel in a war,"

thanks for saying to me exactly what i said to you
i cant think of any nation ever (except poland and france) who would go down without fighting whats your point. yes israel is very capable but turkey would ruin them.

who cares about nukes you fag, no one will use one ever

pakistan india and china are hardly in the same region as israel you idiot and i hardly think that US presence in the mideast is a mitigating factor when it comes to israeli agression

"I by no means meant to say Turkey wouldn't decimate them, but in the midst of other military powers and Israel's successful military history, Turkey would still easily prevail."

do you even listen to the things you say

I said Turkey would defeat Israel in a war before you.

"the fact that you said "even turkey" means you dont know what you're talking about turkey is by far the largest regional power in that area they would decimate anyone"

I agreed with you. like I said, "I by no means meant to say Turkey wouldn't decimate them".

However, I used the word 'even', because, "in the midst of other military powers and Israel's successful military history, Turkey would still easily prevail".


These military powers do include the countries I mentioned. China have training camps all over Pakistan and trade weapons and technology with Pakistan. Pakistan is right next to Iran. Iran hates Israel. Therefore, Pakistan and China would be indirectly involved.

India, have a military treaty agreement with Israel (more than just to train Indian troops Krav Maga). India also has recently signed a multi-billion dollar agreement with Iran, a direct oil connection from Iran to India. Hence, it would be in India's best interests to be involved in some way or another.


" hardly think that US presence in the mideast is a mitigating factor when it comes to israeli agression"

What are you taking about? America is huge factor when it comes to Israeli aggression

If Israel get aggressive with Turkey and gets involved in a war, this directly involves America.

Turkey is the 2nd largest member of NATO and is of immense geo-strategic significance. With a rising China (which is the Pentagons highest priority sense 2009 and on) Turkey has to remain on NATO's side in order to effectively neutralize Russia and China. With a rapidly declining EU, the only NATO member that is actually increasing its Military Expenditures ( on its Massive Military Modernisation program), backed by a rapidly growing economy (according the IMF Turkey was the 3rd fastest growing economy in the world in 2010), is TURKEY. Spain, UK, France, Germany, and the rest of NATO including the US, are cutting military expenditures with the exception of Turkey. You cannot run a WWIII scenario (from the mentality of the US) when all of your allies including yourself minus one nation (Turkey) are cutting military expenditures drastically. In addition Russia currently monopolizes energy supplies into EU via Ukraine. The only alternative energy supply line into EU is TURKEY. There is no way the US and EU can win against China and Russia in a WWIII scenario, which the Pentagon is planning for, when you have the energy supplies to your ally cut from both ends. Therefore, US presence in the middle east is most definitely a mitigating factor when it comes to Israeli aggression. USA want to maintain relations between both countries (more so Turkey), but if Israel acts aggressively towards Turkey this might hinder Turkish-American relations which is pivotal for America's future military dominance.



"who cares about nukes you fag, no one will use one ever"

 

[boris]

Ever again
USA got in quick before proliferation

Of course they would be used if only one country had them

Im sure most of the western world would be indirectly involved in a large scale conflict in that area